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Re: how can I use "tor"

From: Csepp
Subject: Re: how can I use "tor"
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 22:59:25 +0200

Just a heads up, if you want proper anonymity, IceCat is almost
certainly a bad choice. All the weird custom addons and source level
modifications and the fact that very few people use it makes it *easier*
to de-anonymize you.
But if you just want to unblock some things or use onion addresses to
get around NATs, IceCat will be fine.
If you want actual anonymity, Tor Browser and Tails are better choices.

Julien Lepiller <> writes:

> You can't "run tor in icecat" that doesn't make sense. Maybe you meant 
> something else?
> If you don't want icecat to use tor, keep your current settings.
> For using tor in icecat, in your network settings:
> Select "Manuelle Proxy-Konfiguration"
> SOCKS host is localhost, SOCKS port is 9050
> Select SOCKS v5
> Select "Bei Verwendung von SOCKS v5 den Proxy für DNS-Anfragen verwenden"
> Then check with the tor project URL I sent you that you are connecting 
> through tor.
> Le 22 juillet 2022 16:57:40 GMT+02:00, Gottfried <> a 
> écrit :
>>I have taken a photo of my Icecat connection settings.
>>In order not to make a mistake, I am asking again, how to fill in
>> this settings? (I still understand too little, that's why I prefer
>> to ask before making mistakes)
>>As far as I understood you, Icecat will then run via Tor.
>>Is it possible to run Tor separately from Icecat, because as I wrote,
>> the Tor Website discourages to use Tor in connection with other
>> browsers.
>>Am 21.07.22 um 22:35 schrieb Julien Lepiller:
>>> Hi Gottfried,
>>> you don't have to install tor or run it manually. The service is
>>> already running tor for you. To use Tor, you need to use a socks proxy
>>> to localhost:9050.
>>> You can configure icecat to connect to that proxy (and then check that
>>> you're actually connected through tor:
>>> should say "Congratulations").
>>> For other apps, you can use torsocks to proxy traffic through them, eg:
>>>    torsocks wget \
>>>    http://c25o7knygjm3m67jy27yuynvv4pkfi25naucscmh4ubq2ggiig3v57ad.onion/
>>> (that's my home page)
>>> Or, if they support it, you can configure the socks proxy directly in
>>> their configuration.
>>> HTH!
>>> Le Thu, 21 Jul 2022 17:49:29 +0000,
>>> Gottfried <> a écrit :
>>>> Hi Guixers,
>>>> I installed "tor, tor-client, torsocks". and
>>>> also I have "tor-service-type" in my config.scm.
>>>> Nevertheless it doesn't appear anywhere.
>>>> I would like to use the Tor server separately, not in Firefox, as Tor
>>>> Website proposed.
>>>> gfp@Tuxedo ~$ tor
>>>> Jul 21 19:30:24.097 [notice] Tor running on Linux with
>>>> Libevent 2.1.12-stable, OpenSSL 1.1.1q, Zlib 1.2.11, Liblzma 5.2.5,
>>>> Libzstd 1.5.0 and Glibc 2.33 as libc.
>>>> Jul 21 19:30:24.097 [notice] Tor can't help you if you use it wrong!
>>>> Learn how to be safe at
>>>> Jul 21 19:30:24.098 [notice] Configuration file
>>>> "/gnu/store/11azs9lmx363vi1vnz59aim5yp1rv2b9-tor-client-"
>>>> not present, using reasonable defaults.
>>>> Jul 21 19:30:24.106 [notice] Opening Socks listener on
>>>> Jul 21 19:30:24.106 [warn] Could not bind to Address
>>>> already in use. Is Tor already running?
>>>> Jul 21 19:30:24.106 [warn] Failed to parse/validate config: Failed to
>>>> bind one of the listener ports.
>>>> Jul 21 19:30:24.106 [err] Reading config failed--see warnings above.
>>>> I guess, I have to set up other things as well, but I don't know what
>>>> and how.
>>>> I didn't find enough information in the manual that makes it clear to
>>>> me. I found that in the manual:
>>>> 10.8.4 Networking Services
>>>> Scheme Variable: tor-service-type
>>>> This is the type for a service that runs the Tor anonymous networking
>>>> daemon. The service is configured using a <tor-configuration> record.
>>>> By default, the Tor daemon runs as the tor unprivileged user, which
>>>> is a member of the tor group.
>>>> Data Type: tor-configuration
>>>> tor (default: tor)
>>>> The package that provides the Tor daemon. This package is expected to
>>>> provide the daemon at bin/tor relative to its output directory. The
>>>> default package is the Tor Project’s implementation.
>>>> config-file (default: (plain-file "empty" ""))
>>>> The configuration file to use. It will be appended to a default
>>>> configuration file, and the final configuration file will be passed
>>>> to tor via its -f option. This may be any “file-like” object (see
>>>> file-like objects). See man tor for details on the configuration file
>>>> syntax.
>>>> hidden-services (default: '())
>>>> The list of <hidden-service> records to use. For any hidden service
>>>> you include in this list, appropriate configuration to enable the
>>>> hidden service will be automatically added to the default
>>>> configuration file. You may conveniently create <hidden-service>
>>>> records using the tor-hidden-service procedure described below.
>>>> socks-socket-type (default: 'tcp)
>>>> The default socket type that Tor should use for its SOCKS socket.
>>>> This must be either 'tcp or 'unix. If it is 'tcp, then by default Tor
>>>> will listen on TCP port 9050 on the loopback interface (i.e.,
>>>> localhost). If it is 'unix, then Tor will listen on the UNIX domain
>>>> socket /var/run/tor/socks-sock, which will be made writable by
>>>> members of the tor group.
>>>> If you want to customize the SOCKS socket in more detail, leave
>>>> socks-socket-type at its default value of 'tcp and use config-file to
>>>> override the default by providing your own SocksPort option.
>>>> control-socket? (default: #f)
>>>> Whether or not to provide a “control socket” by which Tor can be
>>>> controlled to, for instance, dynamically instantiate tor onion
>>>> services. If #t, Tor will listen for control commands on the UNIX
>>>> domain socket /var/run/tor/control-sock, which will be made writable
>>>> by members of the tor group.
>>>> Scheme Procedure: tor-hidden-service name mapping
>>>> Define a new Tor hidden service called name and implementing mapping.
>>>> mapping is a list of port/host tuples, such as:
>>>>    '((22 "")
>>>>      (80 ""))
>>>> In this example, port 22 of the hidden service is mapped to local
>>>> port 22, and port 80 is mapped to local port 8080.
>>>> This creates a /var/lib/tor/hidden-services/name directory, where the
>>>> hostname file contains the .onion host name for the hidden service.
>>>> See the Tor project’s documentation for more information.
>>>> I read several emails in the guix-help archive about Tor from 2019,
>>>> but I don't know how to put that into practice.
>>>> Could somebody help me?
>>>> Gottfried
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>>Please avoid sending me MS-Office attachments.

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