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Re: someone shortcircuiting this list to razor-report?

From: Donald Sharp
Subject: Re: someone shortcircuiting this list to razor-report?
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:18:48 -0500
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This issue has come up before( repeatedly ).  More than likely
the list owners are not overly interested in acting in the lists
best interests?  Perhaps it is time for someone to step forward
for a new list location?  Perhaps we could use sourceforge for this?

On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 01:07:24PM -0600, Art wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of
> > Karl E. Jorgensen
> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:31 AM
> ...
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 04:38:53PM +0100, Niklas Hallqvist wrote:
> ...
> > > Although this is clearly the most spam-intensive list I have ever been
> > > onto I somehow find it bad that someone is reporting *all* info-cvs
> > > messages to Razor (a collaborative spam-filtering network, see
> > >  This causes false positives from
> > > Razor, which is irritating.  So if someone know that they have done
> > > somekind of automatic filter and is seeing this, please check that
> > > your filter is correct!  I realize there is likely no chance in hell
> > > reaching the one who does this, as (s)he is likely ignoring mails his
> > > filter is throwing away, but I thought I'd try anyhow.
> > 
> > I'm having the same problem. Almost of razor's false positives are
> > postings on this list.
> > 
> > PS: You posting was treated as spam, curtesy of razor (or rather:
> >     Somebody feeding bogus info to razor...)
> First, they steal the bandwidth, then they forge headers to innocent
> bystanders, and now, they're using our own anti-spam technology
> against us! I.e., they redirect all messages to a spam filtering network,
> basically debilitating it's efficacy... Sound familiar?
> Perhaps, Razo, et al should communicate better and identify
> and sever all connections to spammers and their ISPs?
> But, I'd like to see the owner of the info-cvs-admin and bug-cvs-admin
> mailing lists ACTUALLY TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY in filtering out
> the SPAM. Personally, I'd wouldn't mind a 24 hour blackout once
> a year in exchange for not being subjected to 30 spam messages a day
> from these two mailing lists.
> In fact, I'm more concerned about users who have to pay time and money
> and only have 56 Kbps service, because they've already paid for the
> spam they've had to filter out at their end!
> Art
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