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Re: What happened to nnslashdot and nnultimate

From: Adam Sjøgren
Subject: Re: What happened to nnslashdot and nnultimate
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:41:12 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux)

Stefan Huchler <> writes:

>> Webscraping forum-sites is a lot of work, as you have to keep up with
>> every little change.

> yes but they did it in the past, was it at that point in time easier?

I would guess interest faded.

> And another thing I get that nobody takes the time to support 100
> differently random sites, that change here and there, but as example
> with wordpress blog feature u would have one module for 99% of the blogs
> so u had to support only one modul. Or some forum types I would even
> have a use case for MyBB Forums, such software does only get a patch
> every 1000 years so it would be also easy to support and u would support
> thousends of sites with one modul.

Cool! It sounds really easy, when you put it like that. Have you started
working on this module yet? You seem really keen on it. Be sure to share
it with the world, when you've got it working!

> Sorry dont take a bit of trolling from me personal, its just a good
> technic to get some reactions / answers. And also to release some
> frustration this garbage browsers generate onto everybody.

It is also a good method to get people to dismiss you as a kook.

> But if u messure how much users care, u should maybe shut down gnus too,
> because 99% of the users dont care about gnus. Or emacs, 99% of the
> people wordwide dont use emacs. its not always a question of the
> quantity, also about the quality.

Gnus and Emacs will continue to exist as long as there are people
willing to do the work it takes to keep them alive.

Nobody wanted to do that for the bitrotten modules you so long for.

It is no more complicated than that, really.

> I just cant belive that all my problems are special to me, we have 7
> Billion people on the world, so am I really the only person with that
> problem.

Well, the number of people who were willing to do the work to keep those
two backends working was zero.

And that number includes you :-)

> Like u said tapatalk is proprietary

I never said such a thing - I had never heard about "tapatalk" until you
started talking about it. I still don't know what it is, and I couldn't
care less.

> Maybe not, do u not comment on political stuff never when somebody
> trolls u dont answer to him? :)

I have been known to throw trolls a bad apple or two. Like now.

> I just dont see mailing lists a complete replacement for news sites.

Cool. Nobody said that they were that.

> But if you say taht gnus users only use mailing lists and never open
> news sites and never comment on youtube videos,

I never said such a thing. Please refrain for putting words in my mouth.

> so we are back to tv time where u only get oneway brain washing tv
> without possibility to argue against it, so that others have achange
> to read the througth.

And what are you doing about it?

> p.s. I just find it odd that gnus has regressions,

Why do you find that odd? Show me some software that never has

(Removal of a non-working feature that nobody wants to fix is not a
regression, by the way. That is simply maintenance.)

> is it a dying project taht each day has less users or do people
> nowadays not do such stuff that they could do in the past with gnus
> with another newsreader, or did they all quit using emacs?

As long as somebody is interested enough in the code to keep it working,
it will live on.

That is one of the beautiful things about Free Software, I think.

> at least we get now in emacs 24.4 a modern textbased browser maybe with
> that some forum modules re appear.

Oh, and what browser might that be?

  Best regards,


 "It's my chainsaw                                            Adam Sjøgren
  Division is mine"                            

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