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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] RFC: GNU Developer Network on

From: Christopher M. Hobbs
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] RFC: GNU Developer Network on
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 21:15:17 -0500
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Greetings, all! I'm a new FSF member and while I'm not new to GNU/Linux or software development, I'm definitely new to the GNU way. I wanted to wait a while before replying to this, but I think I can offer some insight as someone who's only recently drank the tasty GNU kool-aide.

Many developers like myself will never find a GDN stuffed away in the LibrePlanet wiki. We may never learn about things like semver being a copy of a GNU versioning system as one poster mentioned. We may never learn about proper ways to document in the GNU style.

I really think this project needs its own site with a heavily styled wiki, much like the Mozilla Developer Network. These days, to reach developers (especially web developers), one needs to have a solid web presence and easy to access/edit documentation.

Most things GNU appeal to me philosophically, but much of what's out there looks cluttered and complex from the outside. A site to distil styleguides and common information would be highly useful and would allow people to start bringing up GNU standards in the workplace (as also was mentioned).

Useful stuff may include a quick HOWTO for applying the GPL to your code. How to write languages other than C to GNU standards/styles. How to produce GNU approved documentation other than info pages as some things like RESTful APIs may only have documentation tools for their languages. Where to find GNU resources to mirror resources in the rest of the world (Savannah, Gitorious, etc.).

Just some thoughts.

On 07/04/2013 03:55 PM, Brandon Invergo wrote:
Hi everyone,

I hope this is the right place to bring this up.

I'm a member of the GNU Advisory Board and we are considering the
possibility of setting up a GNU Developer Network.  Developer Networks
can take many forms but in general they provide a central place for
developers to find documentation, tutorials and other information
related to software development, as well as the opportunity to discuss
and interact with other developers.

We considered some ready-made software for this, such as the one Mozilla
uses for their network, but we determined that it would not be feasible
to maintain it.  After weighing our options, we felt that it would be
best for us to try to take advantage of infrastructure that we already
have.  rms suggested that we could use the LibrePlanet wiki.  A wiki
would be a good fit for the kind of activity that would go on in a dev
network, so it seems like a good suggestion to me.

So, I come to you with the proposal that we carve out a corner of the LP
wiki for a developer network.  What do you think about this as a general
idea?  Are there any specific technical or other practical
considerations that we must make?  Are you opposed to something that
would (ideally) end up consisting of many pages?  I know that it's a
community site but since this is a large undertaking, it's better to get
community (and sysadmin) approval first.  And lastly, is there anyone
who is interested in joining in on this?

There are is a practical concern that we have.  How does LibrePlanet
moderate its content, since everything is user-generated?  We could not
support, for example, people recommending proprietary software in the
developer network.  Likewise, we would have to be careful that people
aren't calling the system "Linux" and that they are aware that we are
developing free, not "open source", software.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this!


ps - please include David (CC'ed) in replies; he is helping me out with
this and I'm not sure that he is subscribed to the list.

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