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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Fwd: The FSF Allows No Derivatives


From: Aaron Wolf
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Fwd: The FSF Allows No Derivatives
Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 21:18:54 -0700
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Hi Yoni,

To give your point a little more clarity: You are simply saying that you
don't understand the value of making direct derivatives culturally
(versus just inspired works). It's fine to say that. Perhaps you are not
a really dedicated creative artist like Nina Paley or a seriously
dedicated musician or author.

I suggest you check out http://everythingisaremix.info/

If you really want to understand more, maybe read the imperfect but
largely wonderful full book Free Culture by Lawrence Lessig
http://free-culture.cc/freecontent/

To avoid ranting further, I'll briefly wrap this up. The fact that you
don't personally understand the great works that cannot happen because
of ND or all-rights-reserved restrictions just shows that you, one
person, can't understand everything.

I am a guitar teacher. I would like to create a major improvement to
educational materials using the best resources and reference to hundreds
of culturally-relevant songs that would inspire students. Copyright and
ND terms block my ability to do this. I could go on. Please trust me, we
are greatly lacking all sorts of important value and work in our society
because of these restrictions.

Respectfully,
Aaron

On 05/15/2015 09:03 PM, Yoni Rabkin wrote:
> Logan Streondj <streondj@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 05:27:18PM -0400, Yoni Rabkin wrote:
>>> Aaron Wolf <wolftune@riseup.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Why the incredible desire to use existing source code? Why not use the
>>>> wasted time and efforts spent arguing about this reverse engineering
>>>> your software and just be done with it. …
>>>
>>> Because works of personal opinion are different than useful software.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>    "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"
>>
>> works of personal opinion can be software with a speakable
>> programming language. :-D
>>
>> In fact, works of opinion are used to program humans,
>> which have more processing power than at least most computers,
>> possibly than any computer thus far created.
>>
>> So in a way you could say, works of opinion, are extremely
>> powerful pieces of software.
> 
> I license my own blog under CC-BY-SA but I don't see, so far, a concrete
> problem with the FSF licensing essays on the site with ND.
> 
> I think that a powerful argument would be if someone created something
> real: the GCC of essays if you will. Then point the FSF at that and say:
> "See, this wonderful thing is what you are not allowing me to
> release. Please change the the ND license on those essays so that the
> whole free software community can benefit from my work."
> 
> But I don't know what that would be. If I did, then I would probably
> appreciate the point being made about why ND is bad in this context.
> 

-- 
Aaron Wolf
co-founder, Snowdrift.coop
music teacher, wolftune.com



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