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Re: Set indent based on instrument name (issue 6457049)

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: Set indent based on instrument name (issue 6457049)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:47:42 +0200
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Graham Percival <address@hidden> writes:

> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 02:14:17PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
>> And if you think this is purely hypothetical, check out
>> Documentation/snippets/
> David, thank you for identifying a specific problematic example.
>> There are exceptions to every rule.  But if you are calling for an
>> exception because you lack the skills for following the rule, it is
>> unlikely that your skills are sufficient for correctly identifying the
>> exception.
> I think this is a bit too far.  Phil is trying to solve a
> long-standing *extremely* annoying bug for documentation writers
> which has not attracted much attention from "real" programmers.

I can't actually help here since either problem description or what the
patch is trying to achieve is utterly absent from the issue.


"Set indent based on instrument name" is all that is described
anywhere.  _How_ the indent is supposed to be based on instrument names,
_when_ it is supposed to be based on instrument names, _what_ instrument
names it is supposed to be base on, _which_ indent is supposed to be
based on instrument names, _what_ problem this is trying to solve:

I draw a blank.  I can't even suggest what variables and organization to
use here since I have no clue what the problem is, and what the solution
tries to achieve.

> I don't think that he realizes that he's asking for an exemption,
> so no need to be rude about it.  Please either give us some hints
> about how to store the information in an acceptable manner,

I can't since I have no idea what the code is supposed to do.  At the
current point of time I am pretty much reduced to stating that whatever
the code may be trying to do, it will not work reliably, and point out

But I can't help doing it right if I don't even get a chance to guess
_what_ to do right.

> or wait until Keith or Mike or somebody else has time to help.  Phil
> is *precisely* the kind of person that we want to be helping with
> lilypond, so please don't discourage him.

Well, he is trying to take a shortcut here.  I can tell him that the
shortcut is a dead end, but I since I have no idea where he actually
wants to go, I can't suggest an alternative path.

David Kastrup

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