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Re: 64-bit version of Lilypond?


From: Flaming Hakama by Elaine
Subject: Re: 64-bit version of Lilypond?
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 14:46:26 -0800

>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Kastrup <address@hidden>
> To: Flaming Hakama by Elaine <address@hidden>
> Cc: lilypond-devel <address@hidden>
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 22:16:37 +0100
> Subject: Re: 64-bit version of Lilypond?
> Flaming Hakama by Elaine <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > So, I think the long-term value of Lilypad to the potential user base
> > (on mac or even other platforms) is close to zero.  In the short term,
> > the main downside would be specifically regarding recruiting new users
> > by providing an immediate "working" install.
>
> I've seen reviews of LilyPond lambasting it because clicking the
> application does nothing.
>
> LilyPad helps against that but I am not sure whether we'll entertain
> people's attention span long enough to actually become a user of
> LilyPond when this was a roadblock.


My hot take:  if this is a roadblock, you're probably not going to warm up
to Lilypond.



> If I remember correctly,
> Frescobaldi can download and install official LilyPond versions.  If
> that's also the case in MacOSX, that would be a strong reason to try
> providing a no-GUI LilyPond installation for Darwin.
>
> --
> David Kastrup
>

I agree that a no-GUI installation for Darwin would be great, and I suspect
it would be enough for the vast majority mac users of Lilypond.

However, to be clear, if you are basing this suggestion on being able to
install it via Fescobaldi, I'll reiterate the point that it takes way more
time and hassle to set that up on a mac, since you have to register with
Apple, then download and install XCode, then install a package manager and
install Frescobaldi.  Then use that to install Lilypond.

This is much more work than setting up the command line environment and
using the native simpletext editor, using your regular editor/IDE.

However, I would guess that shepherding new users to use Fescobaldi would
end up getting more of them to stick since I gather it is helpful or even
essential for many (if not most) Lilypond users.  But this is not a path of
convenience on mac.  So, I agree with the suggestion, if not the original
motivation.


Thanks,

Elaine Alt
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