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Re: github mirror of lilypond?

From: Erlend Aasland
Subject: Re: github mirror of lilypond?
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 20:31:50 +0000

On 19 Jan 2020, at 18:19, David Kastrup <address@hidden<mailto:address@hidden>> 
What is of concern is the whole metadata about issues and their handling
and resolution, the stuff you propose moving to GitHub in the first

Just for the record; I’m not suggesting GitHub as the one and only alternative. 
I think I mentioned some of the GH alternatives in my original email, IIRC.

I understand the concern about metadata and such, but a lot of that information 
is already present in the commits (both as metadata in the commits and as 
commit messages), so I guess you’ve already put uncomfortably much information 
in there already…

The current use of Savannah hosting for that reason is not a whole lot
more than a vote of confidence to GNU/FSF/Stallman (which at the current
point of time are more separate entities than they historically were)
but not of practical importance.


Our current ties to Google (via Rietveld) and SourceForge (for
Allura/issue tracking) are practically speaking more tenuous to replace.
Of course they deserve replacing, but doing so by picking GitHub would
definitely be a much more invasive step for the project than just
entertaining a Git mirror.


Make no mistake: our current dependencies in that regard are of lukewarm
quality concerning the "Free Software" regard and are a crutch
technically.  So a change is definitely called for.


But I don’t consider GitHub a nobrainer or I'd likely have an account there: I 
not to the last time I read their terms of use, and while I haven't
rechecked since then, its change of ownership does not inspire
confidence.  Now of course the terms and guarantees then might have been
chosen in order not to interfere with potential high-powered
acquisitions, a goal many startups work towards to, and may be something
that Microsoft does not need to bother with.  So in theory they might
even have improved.  I'd need to check again.

I haven’t delved into this either, but I know that they “support GPL” (whatever 
that means).

But LilyPond is a size where taking out a commercial offer would be pretty 
expensive, and
taking out a free offer means you have nothing to rely or insist on
since there hasn't been an exchange of considerations involved.

True. But, there are GitHub alternatives that are free, for example Gitea.


David Kastrup

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