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Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2
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Han-Wen Nienhuys |
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Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2 |
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Mon, 12 Apr 2021 10:00:53 +0200 |
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 9:36 AM Jonas Hahnfeld <hahnjo@hahnjo.de> wrote:
>
> Am Montag, dem 12.04.2021 um 09:28 +0200 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys:
> > Not being able to use 64-bit addressing on Windows with GUILE 1.8 is
> > an extremely serious problem. What is the reason for this? Is it
> > because dynamic loading doesn't work correctly, and GUILE tries to
> > load SRFI modules as .dlls ?
>
> No, the dynamic loading works on Windows (after all, how would 32 bit
> work otherwise?) The issue is that 64 bit on Windows uses a very weird
> ABI and long's are 4 bytes whereas pointers are 8 bytes. Guile isn't
> prepared to handle this, and the integrated GC fails in wonderful ways
> on this issue. If you want to know more, there's quite a bit of
> material just one search away.
I did a search, but clearly not the right one :) - do you have some pointers?
> Not sure if I mentioned this last year,
> but I actually tried to fix in Guile and gave up after a week or so. I
> seriously don't think that fixing this ourselves when a solution via
> bdwgc is readily available is a good investment of resources.
I had a look at GUILE's git history, and unfortunately, the BDGCW
change is one that was entangled with lots of other changes in the
run-up to 2.0. Sigh.
I am quite familiar with the 1.8 garbage collector, so I'm curious
where the fundamental problems come from, but given the traction of
the fixes I sent to TTN, investigating this for real would only be an
option if we went with the 1.8 fork route.
--
Han-Wen Nienhuys - hanwenn@gmail.com - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, (continued)
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, David Pirotte, 2021/04/18
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Jonas Hahnfeld, 2021/04/19
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Thomas Morley, 2021/04/19
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Jonas Hahnfeld, 2021/04/19
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, David Kastrup, 2021/04/19
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Jonas Hahnfeld, 2021/04/19
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, David Kastrup, 2021/04/19
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Werner LEMBERG, 2021/04/18
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Han-Wen Nienhuys, 2021/04/12
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Jonas Hahnfeld, 2021/04/12
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2,
Han-Wen Nienhuys <=
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Jonas Hahnfeld, 2021/04/12
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, David Kastrup, 2021/04/12
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Karlin High, 2021/04/12
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Jonas Hahnfeld, 2021/04/17
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Thomas Morley, 2021/04/11
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Jonas Hahnfeld, 2021/04/11
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Kevin Barry, 2021/04/11
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Thomas Morley, 2021/04/17
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Thomas Morley, 2021/04/17
- Re: State of LilyPond with Guile 2.2, Jonas Hahnfeld, 2021/04/17