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Re: Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2022 Call for Presentations/Participation/Lectu

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2022 Call for Presentations/Participation/Lectures
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:56:51 +0100
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Jonas Hahnfeld <> writes:

> Am Montag, dem 10.01.2022 um 15:57 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup:
>> Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond development
>> <> writes:
>> > Am Mittwoch, dem 15.12.2021 um 23:44 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup:
>> > > Hi,
>> > > 
>> > > after the "big" Linuxtag event folded, the Chemnitzer Linuxtage are the
>> > > largest such event in Germany, typically drawing about 2500-3000
>> > > visitors each year.  In 2020, they were forced to fold with something
>> > > like a week of advance notice.  In 2021, the event was virtual.  In
>> > > 2022, this will again be the case.
>> > > 
>> > > They have turned the floor plan of the lecture hall building normally
>> > > used (the "Orangerie") into a walk-through game that opens up Jitsi
>> > > sessions at stands and meeting points and connects to Big Blue Button
>> > > sessions in the various lecture rooms.  The hallways are, as it was with
>> > > the in-person conference, set with project stands where vendors or free
>> > > software projects can present their projects and help users and other
>> > > interested people with their problems or their questions.
>> > > 
>> > > This would be an opportunity to set up a LilyPond stand, along with
>> > > posters, presentations and people manning the stand, without actually
>> > > involving traveling to Chemnitz.  Video conference capable hardware is
>> > > all that is required, as is a typical web browser.
>> > 
>> > sorry for the late reply; I'd be willing to participate in the event
>> > and be present at the LilyPond stand. Let me know if you need
>> > something for the submission, if you haven't done so already.
>> Ok, I messed this one up.  Entry deadline is today.
> Not sure, the submission form says 16th, while the latest newsletter
> and Twitter says 10th. Maybe they silently extended the deadline?

I got an Email today: they extended the deadline for talks/workshops.
Looking at the website it would seem that the deadline for presentations
_also_ has been extended to the 16th.

So yes, it's not quite the last minute.

>> The problem with the stand is that it's sort of like a real stand:
>> you need to do posters and possibly other representation in advance
>> in order to attract visitors to engage (get close enough in the
>> virtual walk to enter the Jitsi video conference), you really need to
>> have 3 or 4 minimum serving the stand because a good part of the time
>> personnel will be on standby and/or just talking with one another and
>> for 2 days you want to have people available for passersby, the
>> questions will not be interesting programming questions or modern
>> composers looking for the best of the best but more in line of "how
>> do I even set this up?"  or "I tried entering stuff for my band and
>> rather ended up using MuseScore" or "how do I input MIDI to LilyPond"
>> and so on.
>> And visitors will quite more often than not be German-language (since
>> many people return to this conference that know the people and
>> organisation and that means that its location in Germany does make quite
>> a difference even in this second virtual year), even though official
>> conference languages are both German and English.  So it might have made
>> more sense to look for volunteers in German-speaking forums but I don't
>> actually frequent those.
>> So what would be necessary today, if at all, is to conscript a few
>> people willing to do some of the leadup work and then serve at the
>> virtual stand on the conference date itself.  Without the number of
>> people actually able to do pretty much everything involved with a real
>> stand job apart from travel (and sadly, apart from participating with
>> the great "thank you" dinner that was customary for all active
>> participants with the in-person conferences), it would not make sense to
>> compete for the limited floor space.
>> Um, yeah, that's basically it.
>> Do we get there?
> Not sure it makes sense with two people, unless you received more
> answers privately.

I am quite sure that it does not make sense with just two people, in
particular since I am planning on holding talk(s) and if those get
accepted that will likely put me out for stand duty almost completely as
I'll need time to ensure my setup will work for the actual talks.

> We shouldn't be spending the entire weekend in front of ours PCs...

Frankly, that would not be much of a change to my usual routine...  But
again: I don't think it makes sense to even try with just two persons.
There should be enough that it is possible to comfortably take turns.

David Kastrup

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