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Re: Ties across staves in a PianoStaff

From: u_li
Subject: Re: Ties across staves in a PianoStaff
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 14:45:24 -0700 (PDT)

While I understand your objections, I have these examples in a score I have
to typeset: des.jpg double.jpg 
They are from an unknown copyist after a score by Webern, and it may well be
decided (by me and others) to respect their setting because after all it is
telling us something.

In the first example I could just use a slur instead of a tie (as long as
I'm only interested in the printed output). But how would I achieve the two
ties in the second example? As I understand it, slurs are drawn only once in
a chord, while I can tie individual notes within a chord.
Do I have to split the chord (f#/b) in two voices to be able to slur them


searchfgold wrote:
> I don't think you really should do this, as it is musically incorrect.
> Whenever there is a tie or a slur across staves it is treated as a slur,
> and in fact, sometimes repeated notes that are slurred are placed on
> different staves and slurred. In other words, it would cause much
> confusion. Maybe try slurring the notes and placing a markup saying tie
> over the middle section of the slur; I don't now how to do this but there
> is probably someone somewhere who does and wrote a snippet.
> Great topic!
> u_li wrote:
>> If I place tied notes in different staves of a PianoStaff, the tie is
>> placed at a quite strange position - and horizontally.
>> for example (within a PianoStaff context, both staves with the same
>> clef):
>> \change Staff = "lower"
>> d2~
>> \change Staff = "upper"
>> d2
>> I also come across this problem with chords, so I can't just use a slur
>> instead (which would of course also produce different midi output).
>> Is there any workaround for this?
>> Many thanks
>> Urs

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