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Re: LYNX-DEV new command: 123 g
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JDD |
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Re: LYNX-DEV new command: 123 g |
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Thu, 24 Apr 1997 20:47:01 -0700 (PDT) |
I didn't understand much of the message but did want to confirm
that I like taking my hands off the keyboard as little as
possible and thoroughly enjoy ctrl+A/E. Anyway, I can't get
Home/End to work in my BSD accounts, only in my NetCom SunOS
account.
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Diversity University (D.U.: 'tf MOO.DU.Org 8888'): JDD (#7197)
On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Al Gilman wrote:
}> From: Mike Brown <address@hidden>
}>
}> > PS: The ability to move to or follow a link by number should be
}> > unbundled from keypad key-coding and from the screen display of
}> > numbers at links or displaying links unnumbered. Typing in a
}> > number across the top of the QWERTY block should at least [and
}> > preferrably] move your cursor to the link of that number in the
}> > current document, at all times and without regard to other modes.
}> > Display of link numbers, keypad encoding, and the "immediate"
}> > (current function) retrieval of URLs by link number should be
}> > mode-selectable.
}>
}> I don't think it is always (ever?) possible to differentiate between the
}> number keys across the top of the QWERTY block and the number keys on the
}> keypad, and like I was trying to say before, arrow keys, PGUP, PGDN, HOME
}> and END codes don't always work and thus the numeric keypad bindings are
}> in my opinion essential. According to Klaus' model, if I understand it
}> correctly, these single-keypress bindings would lose their immediacy and
}> would necessitate the extra keypress of RETURN to be invoked.
}>
}> I almost agree with the mode-selectable idea, but in the unfortunate event
}> that a blind user's arrow keys don't work, navigation becomes more
}> difficult, except when traveling between numbered links :)
}>
}> I really need your comments to understand the problem, because in
}> my mind the PGUP, PGDN, HOME and END keys don't exist and I don't
}> miss 'em. I have only been native in LAP-6 (which ran on a
}> PDP-1), VMS, and MacOS. I went straight from VT-100 to <double click>
}> without passing go.
}>
}> It is interesting that Jeff Doran, who started the lynx-learners list,
}> always runs with BOTH vi-keys and emacs-keys on and just runs the
}> program from the QWERTY block without ever touching the keypad, so far
}> as I can tell (I cc'd him for confirm/deny). Now that we have control-A
}> and control-E synonyms for HOME and END as well as 'b' and <SPACE> for
}> PGUP and PGDN I am not sure there is a residual paging problem.
}>
}> Note: I myself would simply change the behavior to
}> move-cursor-to-link-of-number and suffer the screams as people learn
}> that now they have to hit <CR><CR> to get to the HREFed resource.
}>
}> [In my Scientific WAG] It is genuinely better for the
}> speech-interfaced to be able to select links by number but read
}> the anchor text before leaving the current page. There is a lot
}> of TAB*13 in the hints passed around on lynx-learners.
}>
}> It is more logical. It is minimally slower, because your hand is
}> right there at the <CR> key anyway.
}>
}> --
}> Al Gilman
}>
}>
- Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, (continued)
- Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, Mike Brown, 1997/04/22
- Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, Klaus Weide, 1997/04/22
- LYNX-DEV new command: 123 g, Philip Webb, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV new command: 123 g, Al Gilman, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV new command: 123 g, Mike Brown, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV new command: 123 g, Al Gilman, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV new command: 123 g, Philip Webb, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV new command: 123 g, Al Gilman, 1997/04/23
- LYNX-DEV Updated devel code (was: new command: 123 g), Klaus Weide, 1997/04/24
- LYNX-DEV new command: 123g, Philip Webb, 1997/04/24
- Re: LYNX-DEV new command: 123 g,
JDD <=
- Re: LYNX-DEV new command: 123 g, Klaus Weide, 1997/04/23
Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, Laura Eaves, 1997/04/22
- Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, Klaus Weide, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, T.E.Dickey, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, Larry W. Virden, x2487, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, T.E.Dickey, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, Larry W. Virden, x2487, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, Michael Ritzert, 1997/04/23
- Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, T.E.Dickey, 1997/04/23
Re: LYNX-DEV New code for testing, Nelson Henry Eric, 1997/04/22