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Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching gmail in basic html?


From: Alejandro Lieber
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching gmail in basic html?
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 14:34:27 -0300
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0

That's correct.

I think it's not important if the account is new or old. It depends how you logged out the last time with a graphical browser.

Alejandro Lieber

Rosario Argentina

On 7/11/19 14:10, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Okay, this I can test.
One question to be absolutely sure.
The person doing this for me must first log into my gmail  account in a graphical  browser.  Then, they must choose to read  in basic html and log out  in the basic html  session.  yes the password is requested twice, I go through that doing so  in elinks and links. Once they log out  perhaps even saving basic html as my preference?, I should  get back in again.
 will try this evening posting my results.
In fact, this explains how the problem likely started in  the first place.
thanks!


On Thu, 7 Nov 2019, Alejandro Lieber wrote:

Karen:
My experience is that:

1)- If you log out of a session of gmail using the GMAIL STANDARD net view version using Firefox or Chrome, you will NOT BE able to open it again with a text browser without Java-scripts.

2)- if you log out  a session of gmail using the "GMAIL HTML FOR SLOW CONNECTIONS" version option at the botton of the page, using Firefox or Chrome, you will BE able to open it again ad infinitum with a text browser WITHOUT Java-scripts. You will be asked TWICE for the password.

3)- If you don't have a graphic browser, you'll have to give your email password  to someone you trust to configure GMAIL in graphic mode, the only way it can be done.

Alejandro Lieber
Rosario  Argentina

On 6/11/19 22:11, Karen Lewellen wrote:
as expressed more than once, I can still reach my  first and older
 gmail account with lynx in basic html, do this several times a day.
 To be sure, perhaps only  newer accounts are generating the problem.
 Fully realizing that alpine  quality strongly flows from talent, we have
 it via dreamhost for  my office e-mail.  It times out while reading
 items several times a day and crashes regularly...likely tied to the
 dreamhost shell configuration more than anything else.



 On Wed, 6 Nov 2019, dan d. wrote:

> >  Alpine is another text only cli mail client that can pull down gmail >  with an imap or pop connection.  It is configured in the alpine setup >  section.
> >  I'm reading this message via that approach.
> >  I have had an email account for some years and it still allows lynx >  access.  I think at some fairly recent point existing accounts were
>  grandfathered in and new accounts refused using lynx.
> >  On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > >  shellworld?
> >  I have no idea, as I have not needed to look.
> >  How does mutt manage the need for a browser, to follow e-mail links > >  for
> >  example?
> > > > > > > >  On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > > >  Has that shell service got mutt available?  Reason I ask is mutt > > >  can be > > >  used to read and reply to gmail once set up correctly and there's > > >  lots
> > >  of support for setting it up with gmail on the internet.
> > > > > >  On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > > >  Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:02:47
> > > >  From: Karen Lewellen <address@hidden>
> > > >  To: Mouse <address@hidden>
> > > >  Cc: address@hidden
> > > >  Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching gmail in basic html?
> > > > > > > >  The Thunderbird story is interesting because prior to  now I > > > > could use elinks > > > >  and links, which both can incorporate JavaScript to reach my > > > >  research   gmail
> > > >  account.
> > > >  They no longer allow it though because google claims it is not the > > > >  right kind
> > > >  of JavaScript.
> > > >  Generally speaking I too would love learning how this is done.  > > > >  Presently > > > >  although I use DOS, the only internet access I have comes from  > > > >  using a dos > > > >  ssh  telnet client to a shell service. Nothing from my desktop.
> > > >  so  please share more details all the way around.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Mouse wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >  gmail supports POP3 and IMAP access,
> > > > > > > > > >  My experience is that gmail supports POP and IMAP only if you > > > > >  are using > > > > >  one of a few blessed clients, all of which are huge crawling GUI > > > > >  horrors.  Sometimes not even then; for example, back when I was > > > > >  fussing > > > > >  with mail for work, gmail refused to talk to the Thunderbird > > > > >  that was > > > > >  installed on my work laptop, claiming its encryption was > > > > > insufficient > > > > >  in some (unspecified, as far as I can recall) respect. So I was > > > > >  forced > > > > >  onto the HTML interface.  I've been using lynx with the basic > > > > >  HTML view > > > > >  and it's been working for me, but perhaps I'm just being > > > > > grandfathered;
> > > > >  I haven't meddled with the settings in quite a while now.
> > > > > > > > > >  I really wish that job would move their mail to somewhere > > > > >  civilized. > > > > > > > > > > >  and it appears there are old versions of Pegasus Mail > > > > > >  available, that > > > > > >  run on MS-DOS and support these with no Windows environment > > > > > > present. > > > > > > > > > >  If one of them works, great, but don't be too surprised if gmail > > > > >  isn't > > > > >  interested in talking to clients that old.  (If it does work, > > > > >  please > > > > >  mention it here; I'd like to try again if it appears they've > > > > >  relaxed
> > > > >  the stringency of their stance.)
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