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Re: [Lynx-dev] sudden site access failure: realclearpolitics.com


From: Karen Lewellen
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] sudden site access failure: realclearpolitics.com
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 17:39:39 -0500 (EST)

That is actually an interesting question.
What exactly does cloudflare remember under those circumstances?



On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, Jude DaShiell wrote:

I wonder, if a cell phone used the same ip to go to a site and solved the
captcha with the higher graphics browser would the low/no graphics browser
on the same ip also have to solve a captcha?


On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Actually no,
The owner of fanfiction.net is also blocking normal fanfiction download
programs with also are lower graphics in nature.  Same for some mobile
platforms by using an everyone or anything that cannot solve the captcha is an
enemy approach, at least in part.
Cloudflare has settings,  I have actually visited some sites using cloudflare
and still gotten through in Lynx.
also, an owner can accept things like ip address
 and user agent, but again that is done on the site owner's side.
Kare


On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, Jude DaShiell wrote:

I tried fanfiction.net and cloudflair blew up.  It wanted me to complete a
captcha and wanted cookies on and javascript in use and no way lynx is
doing all of that.  Maybe could code be put in lynx to block cloudflair
whenever a lynx user attempts a site cloudflair handles?  The code
probably ought to also ding the handlers of cloudflair that a lynx user
was going to access say fanfiction.net or whatever the other site
cloudflair handles and the lynx browser is set to automatically drop any
cloudflair traffic since cloudflair is lynx browser hostile?


On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi Rudy,
Have  you tried this site today?
Granted I am using the Lynx configuration at shellworld, but I just typed
the
address you provided, and reached the page perfectly.
something to consider about cloudflare is that it tracks sometimes by IP
address.
Would love to learn how the fanfiction.net site works with your user agent
though, smiles.
Karen



On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, Rudy Vener wrote:

Hi all,

Yesterday realclearpolitics.com started returning the following page
when I tried to access it with lynx.

  Please enable JS and disable any ad blocker

I invoke lynx as follows:
/usr/local/bin/lynx-2.9.0-dev9 -useragent="Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel
Mac
OS X 10_8_0) AppleWebKit/537.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/21.0.1180.79
Safari/537.1 lynx" $*

The above user agent spoof normally lets me slip the Cloud Flare
gatekeepers, but this seems to be something new.

For what it's worth, the same problem now occurs with w3m, however,
links (the chain)  can access the site just fine.
If there is a simple configuration fix for this, I'd really like to know.

Thank you.

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Rudy Vener
Website: http://www.rudyvener.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/RudySalt












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