Re: [Pan-users] Problem after system upgrade

[Duncan]

Joe Zeff posted on Sat, 02 Mar 2013 14:54:29 -0800 as excerpted:

> Recently I upgraded from Fedora 16 to 17.  When I tried to use Pan, I
> had a few issues.  I've filed a bug report
> ( https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695022 ) but I'm also
> mentioning it here so that people who don't follow that site can be kept
> informed.

I'd have to dig up my gnome bugzy password (which I haven't used in 
several years, I need to get back into it one of these days) to reply 
there, so I'll reply here.

The saved password issue is likely due to gkr settings.  Using gkr is a 
pretty new option, and it's likely that either the old or new version is 
built with that disabled due to bugs with it at some point.  It may be 
that you had it stored in pan's settings for years, and they just enabled 
the gkr integration, and it wasn't stored there, so you had to reenter 
it.  Or as I said they tried turning it on and may have had people 
reporting bugs, or otherwise decided it wasn't stable, and turned it back 
off.

Of course if you're building it yourself, or (as I) using gentoo's ebuilds 
with their USE flag feature tracking, decisions such as the gkr 
integration are exposed to the user to decide at build-time.  I have
USE=-gnome-keyring set here, since in general I'm a kde person and 
generally prefer not to have gnome components installed at all.  
(Fortunately, pan is gtk, not full gnome, with a few optional gnome deps.)


IDR if pan's default hotkey settings include a sig-display-toggle hotkey 
or not, but if they do (or if you had set one for some reason), what may 
have happened there is that you hit the hotkey by mistake, and didn't 
even realize it (maybe you were looking at a long post and the sig wasn't 
in view) until later.  I think pretty much every reasonably heavy pan 
user does that at least once, with some hotkey or other.  I think the 
muted quotes toggle (IIRC "q" by default) is the one I see people asking 
about the most, but I've seen others as well, and a long time ago, I 
remember even posting to a test group, after I had (deliberately) toggled 
the match only my articles option on, but then forgot about it, and 
thought for a couple days that everyone quit posting!

I'm not positive how long the sig-view option has been there, either.  I 
don't remember it from years ago, and discovered it myself only maybe a 
year ago.  It's likely I discovered it either when the option was 
introduced (with a default I didn't like), or maybe when a hotkey was 
added to it that I didn't know about.  Either way, I remember discovering 
the setting myself, when I wasn't seeing sigs I thought I should be 
seeing.  It's likely you're only now getting that same change, in the 
distribution's version.

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