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Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Paparazzi Wiki gone commercial?

From: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Paparazzi Wiki gone commercial?
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:04:52 GMT


The creators and active members of Paparazzi hope to bring as many members as 
possible to the project and welcome any hardware resellers, profit, and 

The concept of a wiki is to allow/force the community to govern itself and I 
believe that any designated moderator may discourage people from contributing.  
There are a few people selling FTDI adapters and IR sensors on the wiki without 
noting that the FTDI can be bought from Digikey, Sparkfun, etc. and the IR 
sensors are always cheaper from FMA Direct, but it's really not their 
responsibility to research and post all options.  If you see something that 
concerns you, simply edit it to be more generic and/or add links to the 

I have no idea who jszeto is but his contributions to the wiki seem perfectly 
acceptable to me.  He is offering a good selection of hardware on his site at 
very good prices ($55 u-blox 5, $4 PCBs, and a variety of assembled avionics) 
and the project can benefit greatly from vendors like him so I would hate to 
discourage him, or any of the members who have offered to sell parts to the 

-- David Conger <address@hidden> wrote:

 From the start I like to use the features of the Wiki like viewing  
what gets edited not just who. It's becoming alarming the number of  
commercial, i.e. insert direct link to a vendor website with a product  
link, virtually everywhere on that Wiki. Pretty much the same person  
is doing every edit of this type.

I have never seen this on any WIki before so much advertising and ad  
references put everywhere. I'd expect this on a CocaCola Wiki or but  

I write this after watching the Wiki grow over the past year, from  
watching the edits mature the sites content....and now as I watch the  
quality of those edits go down as someone who values the site as a  
source of information about Paparazzi I have to say something. Even  
the readability on a language standpoint is suffering.

I did not name any one person so I am hoping they simply read this and  
think about their real interest in Paparazzi because as it is often  
said: "Actions speak louder than words".

About Wiki. I really like how the software makes edits and changes so  
accessible. Here's a bit of info I can share that is quite useful. All  
edits can be seen easily. Who make the edit and even what they edited.  
It's all stored in a database so the "history" of any page can be seen.

Here's the link to the recent edits of the Wiki:

Note that you can click on "(diff)" and "(hist)" links that will show  
you the content that was edited. So, you can see down to the letter  
every change to every page and what changes were made. It's very  
powerful and allows you full access to what people are writing not  
just who wrote it.
This link shows that jszeto changed the outputs copied and pasted from  
my terminal for some reason:
Not sure why that would be needed since it was a copy and paste from  
my terminal showing the output from the command.
This one shows the same person inserting their product image that is  
only carried on their website:
Ok, not so bad but now what cable do you use with it? The FTDI cable  
used by most everyone requires an adapter but none is shown now for  
this image...

Is there a governing body of some sort to review the Wiki and it's  
content? Maybe one could be created? I don't have the answer but can  
we please preserve the Wiki as a source for knowledge not advertising?



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