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[Qemu-devel] Re: Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and
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Michael S. Tsirkin |
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[Qemu-devel] Re: Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts |
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Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:28:11 +0200 |
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Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) |
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 08:53:54AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>>>>> Migration needs to be conservative. There should be only two possible
>>>>> outcomes: 1) a successful live migration or 2) graceful failure with the
>>>>> source VM still running correctly. Silently ignoring things that could
>>>>> affect the guests behavior means that it's possible that after failure,
>>>>> the guest will fail in an unexpected way.
>>>>>
>>>> It's up to the source to decide what information is extra. For
>>>> example, the state of a RNG emulation is nice-to-have, but as long
>>>> as it is initialized from another random source on the destination
>>>> you shouldn't care.
>>>>
>>> We only migrate things that are guest visible. Everything else is
>>> left to the user to configure. We wouldn't migrate the state of a
>>> RNG emulation provided that it doesn't have an impact on the guest.
>>>
>>> By definition, anything that is guest visible is important because it
>>> affects the guest's behavior.
>>>
>>
>> Right, but I wouldn't be surprised if a user complains that "I know that
>> my guest don't use that VM feature, so I want to be able to migrate to
>> an older version anyway".
>>
>
> This could be addressed with a "force" migration feature. That said, I
> don't believe that the overwhelming majority of users are in a position
> to determine whether they can safely migrate to an older version.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
It's very easy: if their guest runs fine on the old qemu,
it should be safe to migrate there.
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- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Eduardo Habkost, 2009/11/23
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/11/24
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Eduardo Habkost, 2009/11/23
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Paolo Bonzini, 2009/11/23
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Anthony Liguori, 2009/11/23
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Eduardo Habkost, 2009/11/23
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Eduardo Habkost, 2009/11/23
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Anthony Liguori, 2009/11/23
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/11/24
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Anthony Liguori, 2009/11/23
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts,
Michael S. Tsirkin <=
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Anthony Liguori, 2009/11/24
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/11/24
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- [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/11/25
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/11/24
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Paul Brook, 2009/11/24
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/11/24
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Paul Brook, 2009/11/24
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/11/24
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Blue Swirl, 2009/11/24
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/11/24