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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/14] tests: acpi: ignore SMBIOS tests when UEF

From: Laszlo Ersek
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/14] tests: acpi: ignore SMBIOS tests when UEFI firmware is used
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:09:03 +0100
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On 01/16/19 12:07, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> +Gerd
> On 01/16/19 11:32, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:31:54 +0100
>> Laszlo Ersek <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> On 01/15/19 16:41, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>>>> once FW provides a pointer to SMBIOS entry point like it does for
>>>> RSDP it should be possible to enable this one the same way.  
>>> Good point, I didn't think of SMBIOS.
>>> We have the following options:
>>> (1) Use just one "test support" structure, and add more fields (such as
>>> the SMBIOS entry point) to it, beyond the RSDP1.0/RSDP2.0. For this, we
>>> should also introduce a "size" field to the table, so we don't have to
>>> extend the table between firmware and QEMU in lock-step.
>>> (2) Use a different table (with a different GUID) for exposing the
>>> SMBIOS entry point.
>>> On the firmware side, (1) would be more work now, but it would keep
>>> things simpler (and better separated) in the future. (2) would be more
>>> lazy ^W convenient now, but it would introduce more churn / possibly
>>> some code duplication in the future.
>>> In QEMU, which one would you prefer?
>> I'd prefer #1 to minimize # of memory scans.
>> However with size (i.e. implicit versioning) and who know what else in
>> the future complexity grows up and dependency this approach causes
>> between firmware and QEMU (I dislike special build instead of reusing
>> shipped images).
>> So I've dug a little bit into the history why we've chosen including
>> structure into the firmware itself instead of writing EFI application
>> as part of QEMU that would provide the same test structure but won't
>> require special firmware build.
>> If I sum it up, it was issue with distros are shipping (if they do it at all)
>> only a version that matches distro's architecture and a need for cross
>> compiling EFI test app.
>> Could we revisit EFI app approach (I'd prefer it over firwmare hack if it's
>> possible)? We can try to avoid dependency on gnu-efi and cross compiling on
>> regular builds and ship along with efi app source code several prebuild app
>> binaries (boot disk images), that one would rebuild only when efi app
>> is changed, and it could be done manually (the same like special fw build
>> but contained withing QEMU). As for gnu-efi, is it possible to use striped
>> down gnu-efi stubs to drop external library dependency, something along of
>> lines https://github.com/tqh/efi-example ?
> If it is permissible to require the affected QEMU maintainers to
> *manually* rebuild the UEFI binary on their workstations, whenever the
> source code for the UEFI app changes, then the solution is a lot easier
> indeed.
> In particular, for this approach, we don't even need gnu-efi. (Because,
> personally, I would strongly prefer to write the UEFI application with
> the edk2 framework.) For a while now, edk2 has supported "multiple
> workspaces":
> https://github.com/tianocore/tianocore.github.io/wiki/Multiple_Workspace
> and as a result, it is possible to build the necessary UEFI app from:
> - an edk2 checkout that the maintainer has "somewhere" on their disk,
> - and the UEFI app source code that is contained in a QEMU checkout that
> the maintainer has "somewhere else" on their disk.
> This approach allows the UEFI app source to live in the QEMU tree, and
> the affected maintainer(s) would be personally responsible for setting
> up their edk2 clones, and compilers. (The edk2 clone could even be a
> submodule of QEMU, for example at roms/edk2.) For example,
> "roms/Makefile" already calls an external EFIROM utility (also from
> edk2) in order to build the combined iPXE option ROMs.
> And yes, we could turn the UEFI binaries into bootable ISO images at once.
> I'll try to post some patches soon (or not so soon). I think the app's
> source code, and the edk2 submodule, should live under roms/, and the
> bootable images should live under pc-bios/.
> (In fact we could use this opportunity to build & bundle OVMF itself...
> not sure if that's in scope for now. Gerd, what's your take?)

Oh, I should add: the UEFI app in question could be built without
pulling in any OpenSSL bits; OVMF itself can't be built like that (it
now has a hard dependency on OpenSSL). This might matter from a
licensing/bundling perspective.


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