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Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repol
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Eli Zaretskii |
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Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el |
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Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:06:38 +0200 |
> From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
> Cc: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>, ulm@gentoo.org, rms@gnu.org,
> dgutov@yandex.ru, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:36:54 +0100
>
> >>>>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2021, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> >> > Only a special class of derivative works can be distributed freely,
> >> > and it sounds like some of these would fall under "fair use" anyway.
> >> > Certainly this isn't enough to qualify as a free software license?
> >> >
> >> > However, this document itself may not be modified in any way,
> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > including by removing the copyright notice or references to OASIS,
> >> > except as needed for the purpose of developing any document or
> >> > deliverable produced by an OASIS Technical Committee (in which case
> >> > the rules applicable to copyrights, as set forth in the OASIS IPR
> >> > Policy, must be followed) or as required to translate it into
> >> > languages other than English.
> >>
> >> Then it is not free.
>
> > Forgive me for a possibly naïve question, but why on earth would you
> > want to modify a schema?
>
> I think the core question isn't if the files can be modified, but if
> their license allows including them with a free software package.
Where does the stuff that you quoted disallow that?
> At least if you apply the usual criteria mechanically, I believe the
> answer would be "no".
I very much hope that we don't apply anything of this kind
mechanically.
> > It's the same as modifying a physical law. Would you say that E = mc²
> > is "non-free" because it cannot be meaningfully modified at will?
>
> That's an awful analogy.
Why "awful"? A physical law describes some part of the reality, and
an XML schema describes a certain kind of documents and data types.
> For example, you can modify (i.e. generalise) the formula to E² =
> p²c² + m²c⁴ for an object with nonzero momentum. :-)
A schema can be similarly "generalized" (a.k.a. "extended") without
changing it: you include the schema in your own and then add your own
data types and conditions.
- Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, (continued)
- Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/01/25
- Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Richard Stallman, 2021/01/26
- Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Richard Stallman, 2021/01/26
- Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/01/26
- Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Richard Stallman, 2021/01/27
- Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Jean Louis, 2021/01/24
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Ulrich Mueller, 2021/01/24
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Jean Louis, 2021/01/24
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/01/24
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Ulrich Mueller, 2021/01/24
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el,
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- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/01/26
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/01/26
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/01/26
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/01/26
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/01/26
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/01/26
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Richard Stallman, 2021/01/28
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/01/28
- Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el, Richard Stallman, 2021/01/29