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Re: Poll: Inline methods sufficient?

From: Kai Großjohann
Subject: Re: Poll: Inline methods sufficient?
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 12:54:33 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu)

lawrence mitchell <address@hidden> writes:

> Kai Grossjohann wrote:
>> Are the inline methods sufficient that Tramp offers now?  I mean the
>> ways to encode a file for transit, not all the alternatives to ssh
>> and telnet that people might think of.
>> Tramp tries base64 encoding via mimencode, mmencode, two Perl scripts
>> and GNU recode, and then it tries UU encoding via uuencode/uudecode.
> It seems like enough.  Is there a pointer in the manual for where
> one might find uuencode for Windows?  If not: <URL:
>> seems
> to offer a version, though they are not free (as in speech
> software).  The GNU versions (of uucode) also come with cygwin
> (mingw doesn't seem to do the sharutils), but getting all of
> cygwin seems a bit excessive.

I wish there was another free implementation of uu*code for Windows.
Does anyone know?

> There's a pointer to metamail on the NTEmacs FAQ, which I would
> guess is probably enough.

Metamail needs to be on the remote host.  Emacs has base64
de/encoding built-in.

>> People running Windows with remote systems requiring UU encoding
>> might have problems because of a missing uuencode on Windows.
>> There are plans to support another encoding which uses "od -b" to
>> read files from the remote host and SysV-style "echo -e" to send
>> files to the remote host (including \000 for null bytes).  Is this
>> really necessary, or is what is offered now enough?
> Again for windows, the "echo -e" would have to be emulated
> somehow, as the echo builtin is pathetic.

The plan is to do it in Lisp inside Emacs: from Emacs, generate a
sequence of "echo -e" commands which are then executed on the remote

> But I think that there are generally enough fallback inline methods.

Good :-)  Other opinions?

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