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Re: [Denemo-devel] new paste


From: Nils Gey
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] new paste
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 01:26:41 +0100

Still more thoughts:
a) In Singlestaff selection it should be optional if the user selects a barline 
or not. So the user has the choice to select the first and/or the last barline 
in a selection. This can be exactly pasted as selected.
b) In Multistaff selection the first and last barline should be always selected 
since multistaff always selects whole measures. 

If this is not possible since barlines in Denemo are something special please 
say directly and in that case forbid a barline as first copied object as well. 
(Reminder: This is possible if you select from right to left).

I expect some confusion about this topic, maybe its better to speak about this 
in IRC. But un-eqaul behaviours are the problems that make paste hard to do.

Nils


On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 01:18:00 +0100
Nils Gey <address@hidden> wrote:

> I'm sorry to revert that again. Forwardselection of barlines is only possible 
> if followed by an empty measure.
> I request that selecting barlines is possible all the time. Otherwise paste 
> has try to guess if the user wants a tailing measure break if he selects a 
> complete measure. This will go wrong in 50% of the cases, which is not 
> acceptable.
> So please make it possible that a selection from left to right can end in a 
> barline.
> 
> I hope this is my last change of observation and opinion :)
> 
> Nils
> 
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:38:47 +0100
> Nils Gey <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > I was wrong about not beeing able to select barlines when selecting from 
> > left to right. It is possible, just not visible.
> > So my updated suggestion is to make selected barline and empty measures 
> > better visible.
> > 
> > Nils
> > 
> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:42:35 +0100
> > Nils Gey <address@hidden> wrote:
> > 
> > > hello list,
> > > 
> > > I'm currently rewriting paste to be better, faster and easier to maintain.
> > > 
> > > 1) I need a function to get the number of staffs in the clipboard. We 
> > > already have (d-ClipObjects staffnum) but staffcount is unknown to Scheme.
> > > 
> > > 2) The drawing of an empty, selected measure is suboptimal. It looks like 
> > > the beginning of the next right measure is selected.
> > > 
> > > 3) If you select backwards it is possible to select a leading barline 
> > > which is a) not possible if you select forward b) not shown in the 
> > > selection-drawing. This is confusing but not directly related to paste. 
> > > The old, current, paste has some tests to ignore those leading barlines 
> > > but this is not necessary at all. If the user copies a barlines it gets 
> > > pasted, simple as that. But at least the selection must be shown. I have 
> > > no opinion about removing the possibility to select leading barlines, or 
> > > allowing it for a forward selection or leaving it as is, I leave that to 
> > > someone other to decide. It makes no difference to the user and to paste.
> > > 
> > > Nils
> > > 
> > > PS. to Richard:
> > > You said "I notice d-StaffUp extends selection...". This is just correct. 
> > > If you don't want a selection use d-MoveToStaffUp.
> > > 
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