Re: Kickstarter was not successful... but it did help things...

[Tom Bruno]

I've read lots of discussion about pro-Apple/non-Apple etc. Both technical and 
non-technical. Being completely new to GNUstep, I just wanted to take a second 
to share why I am excited I've found the project & what it means to me.

I came to Objective-C and Mac/iOS development about 2 years ago.  I had 
previously a majority of my experience in Linux C++ and Qt4.  I instantly fell 
in-love with the completeness provided by the OSX/iOS platform and found my 
self very surprised to see such an ecosystem around Objective-C. You don't need 
3rd party toolkits such at Qt4 to do amazing work, its all just built right 
into the platform.

        As all of you discuss what to do, where to go, etc. I just ask you to 
keep in mind. I'm coming to GNUstep because I'm excited that I will be able to 
use the design patterns, language features, and just all the goody goodness 
I've experienced when developing on OSX.  IMO other platforms such as Windows 
and Linux fall just short of such a complete system.  By sticking close to the 
work that is already done by Apple we allow developers also in-love with the 
platform to just pick up and be productive without having to learn all the 
different ways GNUstep is different than Cocoa. Also, the closer GNUstep is to 
Cocoa we get a lot of other things for free (if we want them) such as API 
documentation, proven design patterns, and lots of QA done on the API itself.

I'm not saying to strictly follow Apple and do nothing else, there is tons of 
fun to be had extending cocoa even on Apple's platforms. Apple has just created 
a wonderful platform & I'm excited to see people wanting to bring its tools and 
environment to Linux.

Many thanks to all of you who have worked hard on GNUstep, it really is a great 
thing!

Tom


On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Pirmin Braun <pb@intars.de> wrote:

> Am Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:17:30 +0100
> schrieb "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com> :
> 
> 
>> So if not one person is standing up an saying "go there", we need some other
>> means. E.g. a democratic one. Like an opinion poll and majority votes. Or we
>> do a vote to empower a trustworthy person to define the overall directions 
>> for
>> e.g. one year.
>> 
> 
> as there are different directions and interests there is nevertheless the 
> GNUstep base we all share.
> Maybe we can agree on putting common effort into a thing called "the 
> non-Apple ObjectiveC toolchain and runtime"  and make it more visible, 
> documented, easier to approach, install.
> 
> 
> 
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