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Re: Please, no GitHub


From: Gregory Casamento
Subject: Re: Please, no GitHub
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 01:49:04 -0500

Max, 

​I really think this thread has proceeded to it's conclusion.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:59 AM, ChanMaxthon <xcvista@me.com> wrote:
Richard:

> On Dec 15, 2015, at 11:57, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>>> I don't see a way to do that.  Do you have any suggestions?
>
>> Well, the easiest answer would be: $$$ but I don't know if FSF has
>> and wants to do such funding.
>
> If we got more money, we could pay staff to work on Savannah.
> If you'd like to donate, please visit fsf.org.

If we can struck a balance between users' freedom and corporates' interests, not pushing either side too hard, it would be the best for us, as it maximizes contributions & donations coming in and still keeps our ethics. This balance is intricate.

​Our responsibility is to maintain the promise of the four freedoms that have been put forward on the FSF website.   ​
 
​It is for each person to find her or her own balance (now I sound like I'm talking about Zen here). ​

>> Well, the best ethics and intention does not help if the service does not
>> work as needed and becomes a burden to projects like GNUstep. This
>> makes developers go away instead of coming in.
>
> Our software would be pointless if not for our ethics.
>
> Fortunately, things are not as difficult as you've made them appear.
> Savannah works, even if once in a while it takes time for some request
> to be handled.  That inconvenience doesn't stop most GNUstep
> volunteers.  And there are other ethical repository solutions too.

There is one problem for GNUstep in particular though: most of the potential contributors, the OS X and iOS developers, are tied up in employment so the aforementioned balance have to maintained or without their pay checks they cannot donate or contribute.

​I'm REALLY not understanding your point here.   Working on this project doesn't preclude making a living.
 
> --
> Dr Richard Stallman
> President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
> Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
> Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.

​GC​
​--​
Gregory Casamento
GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
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