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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Fight Trademark with Libremark


From: Tobias Platen
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Fight Trademark with Libremark
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 16:09:28 +0100
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On 22.03.2015 14:05, Aaron Wolf wrote:
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Although I felt generally positive about the work with GitBull, both
that *and* the "LibreMark" work exhibit a pattern that I do not like:

Announcing the idea as somethi that is now already being done.

I think you have a habit of skipping the step of coordinating with /
checking with other people interested in the topic before making
something.

You would have learned more about the trademark issues with GitBull if
you had proposed or discussed the idea before simply making it. You
would learn more about trademark and people's views of it by
discussing it before creating a proposed LibreMark thing.

On glancing at it, the LibreMark idea seems to hold some merit,
although I think it may be overkill, I'm not yet sure it is warranted.
I don't yet have a real opinion here.

I just really prefer that people do their due diligence to research
what exists and check with others before just running out and making
new projects. Often, other people have valuable ideas or valuable work
has been developed for a long time, and the tendency to just bypass
all that and start a new project is, I think, not as healthy as
checking about what is or isn't working and what lessons others have
learned etc. and then starting new projects with the buy-in from the
community early on.

That said, you're sharing this now, so there's room for discussion.
I'm not trying to shame you. I just feel awkward about the first
announcement of a problem being joined immediately with already acting
to solve it without discussion in between.

I'm not sure that the SFC being protective of the Git trademark is a
bad thing in any sense here. I'm not sure that it's a problem that
needs solving. But I'm not sure that LibreMark is a bad idea either. I
haven't had time to make sense of this. I just definitely don't have
the immediate "this is wrong" reaction to the trademark situation that
you had.

Respectfully,
Aaron

On 03/22/2015 06:22 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:
Hello LibrePlanet mates,

Recently I have created https://gitbull.org to create a fully free
  solution in front the trouble of gitorious.

Then, the Software Freedom Conservancy contact me because we use
*git* in the name.

I understand their position and *hope* for a solution.

This point make me think that with trademark we are not Free As In
  Freedom and so, we all need something more corresponding to our
way of think: Freedom.

Thank *LibreMark* Born \o/

http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibreMark

Now, we need lawyer improvement to make it powerfull and to
protect our freedom higher.

Thanks to all.


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Please do not use the biased term "intellectual property" (see https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html)

Tobias Platen



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