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Re: [RULE] What should go in the RULE install guide?


From: Da Worm
Subject: Re: [RULE] What should go in the RULE install guide?
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 03:18:33 -0500

>...are you familiar with insmod,

No, but I could look it up if I knew that I needed it.

>ifconfig,

I have used this once or twice before in my experiments with Linux, but claim 
zero expertise.

> & wget?

No, but again, I could look it up if need be.  Google is my friend.

> Do you know how to write a bash script using a for-loop?

I am not sure why a for loop would be necessary to load a network driver, and 
use this to start an FTP install.  Back at some 6.x Redhat, I managed it 
without ever writing anything in Bash, but that was on a system fully 
supported.  I no longer have such a system for any current distro, hence my 
interest in RULE.

>Do you have the correct modules copied onto disk 2?

When copying from a windows environment, the files are not correctly marked as 
executable.  I suppose this is what insmod is for, but have yet to look it up, 
as I had no knowledge that I needed to.  Perhaps this is the clue that I need.

I don't want to sound arrogant, but I have been using computers since the days 
of CP/M, DOS, and most Windows flavors.  I have installed and discarded several 
versions of BSD and Linux, discarded mainly because there was no documentation 
readable by the uninitiated.  Bash windows all you want, but man pages still 
don't hold a candle to the windows help system.  Five years of trying, off and 
on, has led me to believe that things are finally getting better, so I am 
trying again.  But if this project hopes to attract those who know nothing, at 
least it should be able to help those who know just a little.  If a computer 
professional who hasn't yet learned Linux can't get the system installed, then 
someone who has never even heard of it hasn't a chance.

I'll be happy to write up a "noobies guide" if only I could get past the 
initial hurdles.  I know I need a network driver on the boot disk (or the 
secondary driver disk).  I have found the scripts to modify to load this 
driver, and the command line parameters to pass to it.  What I don't know is 
how, from a windows box, to get the driver on the disk in such a way as I can 
run it.  Once there, and once it can be ran, I am sure I can continue on with 
an FTP installation (since I have no CD-ROM to install from on the target 
machine).  Its just getting there that is causing me grief.

Jeff.


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On 3/29/2003 at 1:56 PM Eugene Wong wrote:

>>From: Da Worm <address@hidden>
>>
>>Could someone post info on how to install via FTP?  Especially how to get
>>the network drivers onto floppy for the initial boot phase, when one
>starts
>>with only a windows box?
>
>Hi Jeff.
>
>I personally think that it is quite complex.
>
>Just so that I know where you are coming from, are you familiar with
>insmod,
>ifconfig, & wget? Do you know how to write a bash script using a for-loop?
>Do you have the correct modules copied onto disk 2?
>
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