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can't get native charset codes from mule menu

From: Dan Jacobson
Subject: can't get native charset codes from mule menu
Date: 02 Oct 2002 23:34:40 +0800
User-agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2

>>>>> "K" == Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:

K> In article <878z1pvjh1.fsf@jidanni.org>, Dan Jacobson 
<jidanni@dman.ddts.net> writes:
K> If you want to see the real code-points of Big5, please do:
K> M-x list-charset-chars RET big5 RET.

>> Hmmm, one would also expect this to be available in the Mule
>> menu... seems even more often used by users than the thing that gave
>> me 217x...

K> Currently we have this menu:
K>   menu-bar -> options -> mule -> list-character-sets
K> Do you mean you also want something like this?
K>   menu-bar -> options -> mule -> list-charset-chars -> ascii
-> latin-iso8859-1
K>                                                  ...
-> Big5
K>                                                  ...

No. I felt bad because anything in
menu-bar -> options -> mule -> list-charset-chars
will just show you the emacs internal codes.
Therefore I want an additional tree:
menu-bar -> options -> mule -> list-charset-chars-with-their-native-codes
or something like that, because:
1. don't most folks want to see a list with the native codes and not
emacs special codes?  But the menu just has the latter and not the
2. Isn't it weird that M-x list-charset-chars will show you native
codes whereas the menu item of the same name shows you emacs codes?
Oh, the menu item is in fact "List Character Sets", but sounds close
enough, and there is no alternative on the menu to get you native

By the way, I suppose your subtrees idea isn't bad, but remember to
take care of the bigger problem first.
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