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Re: can't get native charset codes from mule menu

From: Kenichi Handa
Subject: Re: can't get native charset codes from mule menu
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:56:36 +0900 (JST)
User-agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.1.30 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI)

In article <87adlwvoq7.fsf_-_@jidanni.org>, Dan Jacobson 
<jidanni@dman.ddts.net> writes:
> No. I felt bad because anything in
> menu-bar -> options -> mule -> list-charset-chars
> will just show you the emacs internal codes.

If you simply select `big5' instead of `chinese-big5-1/2',
you can see Big5 native code.  Why is that not enough?

> Therefore I want an additional tree:
> menu-bar -> options -> mule -> list-charset-chars-with-their-native-codes
> or something like that, because:

For that to work, it should accept only indirectly supported
charsets such as cpXXX, big5, viscii.  Otherwise, Emacs
don't know which native charsets a user is expecting.
Then, the menu
should be ...-> mule -> list-indirectly-supported-charset-chars.

But, if we provide this menu:
  ...-> mule -> list-charset-chars
and make it also accepts big5, isn't it enough?

> 1. don't most folks want to see a list with the native codes and not
> emacs special codes?  But the menu just has the latter and not the
> former.
> 2. Isn't it weird that M-x list-charset-chars will show you native
> codes whereas the menu item of the same name shows you emacs codes?

You are misunderstanding what the current menu does.

> Oh, the menu item is in fact "List Character Sets", but sounds close
> enough, and there is no alternative on the menu to get you native
> codes.

As I wrote before, in the current code, the menu "List
Character Sets" (i.e. M-x list-character-sets) shows also
From there, you can click on `big5' to get a native code

Ken'ichi HANDA

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