Re: [Denemo-devel] One verse per page for projector presentation

[Richard Shann]

On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 09:27 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> Ok, I have stepped through how to do this:

Whoops! I didn't actually step through the last bit, adding titles, page
breaks etc, else I would have remembered that you have to do that
*before* creating the Score Layout. Once you have a score layout setting
the titles has to be done within the score layout (it means each layout
can have different titles and page breaks etc, which is usually needed).

Richard



> 
> First create Movement 1 with the music of the first verse and the lyrics
> of the first verse
> Then Movment 2 with music of chorus and chorus lyrics
> 
> Then movements 3, 4, 5 ... with empty music and lyrics for verse 2,
> lyrics for chorus, lyrics for verse 3, lyrics for chorus ...
> respectively.
> 
> Notice that you do, unfortunately have to keep pasting the chorus lyrics
> - that is really a minor bug that you can't just refer to one set of
> lyrics in the score layout.
> 
> Once you have this set up you do View->Score Layout
> Choose Customize and Replace the Default Score Layout.
> Then you have to expand each movement, expand the staff, expand the
> voice and Substitute the music. Starting with movement after the second
> (chorus) you substitute the music from Movement 1 or Movement 2
> depending on whether it is a verse or a chorus.
> 
> This "substitute the music" is not as friendly as it could be, it
> doesn't offer you a list of musics to choose, you have to edit the name
> of the music: the name of the music is constructed like this
> 
> \MvmntXXXVoiceYYY
> 
> for movement XXX voice YYY
> 
> so for example:
> 
> \MvmntIVVoiceI
> 
> is referring to Voice I of Movement IV
> 
> You will always have VoiceI, and you will want the references to either
> MvmntI for the verse or MvmntII for the chorus.
> 
> The \ sign, by the way, is LilyPond's way of making a reference to that
> music.
> 
> Some things to be careful about: those large X buttons are delete
> buttons, they can't be undone, so be especially careful if the Score
> Layout window has gotten hidden behind the Display window, clicking on
> the bit that is visible could spell disaster for your layout if the bit
> visible is a delete button!
> Second, once you have re-loaded the score you will only have the
> LilyPond syntax to edit, this GUI interface is one-off only. Having said
> that, the LilyPond editing is not very hard, if you look at the bottom
> of the View->LilyPond window you will see all the movements each one a
> block of text like this:
> 
> 
> \score { %Start of Movement
>  <<
> 
> %Start of Staff
> \new Staff = "Part 1"  << 
>  \new Voice = "VoiceIMvmntIV"  { 
>   \clef treble 
> { \key c \major}
> { \time 4/4 }
>  \MvmntIVVoiceI                } %End of voice
>                 
> >>
> %End of Staff
> 
>         \new Lyrics = MvmntIVVoiceIVerseI
> 
>         \MvmntIVVoiceIVerseIContext
> 
> >>
> 
> \header {
> title = ##f
> instrument = ##f
> 
> }
> 
> } %End of Movement
> 
> 
> All that fiddling about with the Score Layout GUI in this case is just
> replacing the line
> 
>  \MvmntIVVoiceI                } %End of voice
> with the line
>  \MvmntIVoiceI                } %End of voice
> 
> if it is the verse or with \MvmntIIVoiceI if it is a chorus.
> 
> But I know some people just block-up when they see a page of
> gobbledegook ...
> 
> Then, of course you add title page, movement titles and page breaks
> between movements all as usual. You may want landscape page setting if
> it is for a wide projection screen...
> 
> HTH
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 21:46 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > It is late at night here, so I will just answer very briefly (more
> > tomorrow)
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 20:06 +0000, Kevin Wenz wrote:
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your answer!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The verses should be laid out underneath the notes and the notes
> > > should be repeated for every verse/chorus.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If my song has a chorus and 2 verses it should look like that:
> > > ---------------------------
> > > 
> > > -- first page --
> > > 
> > > Title of the song
> > > 
> > > Copy right
> > > ....
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- second page --
> > > 
> > > contains: the text and the notes of the first verse (the verse's
> > > syllables should be placed under each corresponding note)
> > > 
> > > -- thirds page --
> > > contains: the text and the notes of the chorus (again the text is laid
> > > out under the notes)
> > > 
> > > -- fourth page --
> > > contains: the text and the notes of the second verse (again the text
> > > is laid out under the notes)
> > > 
> > > -- fifth page --
> > > contains: the text and the notes of the chorus (once again the text is
> > > laid out under the notes)
> > > ------------------------------
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Okay i have to use the 'Score Layout'.
> > > 
> > > For now i have 2 movements (one for the verses and one for the
> > > chorus). How can i change the order of the specified verses and the
> > > chorus in the 'Score Layout'. The only things i am seeing are the
> > > 'score-wide settings' and the two movements (the thing i can do is
> > > changing the verses order inside a movement).
> > > 
> > > Is it possible to add more movements and reuse the notes?
> > 
> > Yes, that is one approach you can use, I'll do an example tomorrow.
> > 
> > >  Do i have the wrong approach? Or do i maybe have to work with
> > > lilypond commands?
> > 
> > I'm sure it won't involve editing actual LilyPond - you have all the
> > ingredients to hand.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Greetings
> > > 
> > > - Kevin
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Richard Shann <address@hidden> schrieb am Mi., 16. Sep. 2015
> > > um 17:03 Uhr:
> > > 
> > >         On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 15:32 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> > >         > so unless you can
> > >         > work editing that
> > >         sorry, that was garbled, omitting the quoted bit renders it
> > >         intelligible...
> > >         R
> > >         
> > 
> > 
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