Re: Scrollbars.

[Renaud Molla]

I think creating a free implementation of OpenStep is a good thing, the most important one being the API, because the end user doesn't care if he's using an OpenStep application or a GTK one, what the user looks for is ease of use

and this is linked to the knowledge he already has of other systems. Since most GUI systems have scrollbars on the right, most people won't find the GNUstep choice a smart one. (i agree this goes back to OpenStep but this is dead actually).

Furthermore, copying the OpenStep interface like it was in the 90's is absurd because it is assuming that in 10 years time, it wouldn't need any update, therefore that it is something worth being copied as is.

Most people won't use GNUstep applications first because they look 10 year old, and if some really want to give them a try, they get lost in menus and other behaviours one can consider strange toward other systems.

However, if the goal is to create something people will always find good reasons not to use, then I think it's useless.

On Nov 14, 2006, at 6:06 PM, Stefan Bidigaray wrote:

On 11/14/06, Marc Brünink <mbruen@smartsoft.de> wrote:

Oh, I didn't cc'ed my reply to the list. But you didn't miss anything :-)
I wrote something about having a default to configure the side on which
the scrollbar is drawn. I think this would be handy as soon as you
display arabic text. And everybody could choose his personal
preferences. This is always a good thing. Even if it bloats the code a bit.
But I guess this statement is not new.... ;-)

This has been discussed already, just a few weeks ago!  I agree with the outcome, which is to leave everything the way it is.  There were some very good pros and cons arguments, but in the end I think it was decided that it's not where the project wants to go.  The main goal is to create a free implementation of NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP, which has the scrollbars on the left.  In the last few months that I've been using GNUstep, and software built for it, I've grown accustomed to the location of the scroll bar and actually kind of like it there.  The only thing I actually mess with are the menus, which take up less space at the very top of the screen.

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