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Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard

From: Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Subject: Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:45:36 +0100

Am 09.11.2007 um 12:41 schrieb Markus Hitter:

Am 09.11.2007 um 10:23 schrieb Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf:

"GNUstep - code differently" (maybe even something ObjCish: [GNUstep code: @"differently"];)

Ahem. Typically, a developer doesn't want to learn something entirely new but stay with current skills:

"GNUstep - everybodies Mac"

no, better not: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mac ;-)

"GNUstep - Cocoa revisited"

"GNUstep - Cocoa opened"

if so maybe better "GNUstep - free Cocoa" ("Cocoa free" could lead to a misunderstanding like "100% fat free". I'd also like "GNUstep - free as in Cocoa" because of the "free as in beer" phrase, but maybe that's to geeky). Then again, how many people know about Cocoa (I came across a lot of people - who call them selfes "Open Software Developers" that never heard of Cocoa. The "code differently" was mainly a pun at the "think different" campaign of Apple. Also the emphasis on "code" was important to me since "GNUstep is a cross- platform, object-oriented framework for desktop application development" which is to long for a phrase.

"GNUstep - Mac free"

"GNUstep -

- an easy installation and setup process for GNUstep is essential in my opinion. It must be easy for the curious "chance customer" to get an experience of GNUstep.

Most *BSD and Linux distributions come with decent packaging systems these days. ubuntu isn't that bad in this regard, but currently comes with base-1.13, and gui-0.11. This is several versions behind, IIRC. Etoile is missing entirely (just checked). Ideally, there'd be gubuntu or etoile-ubuntu next to ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu.

There already was a LiveCD of Étoilé which was based on Ubuntu (I did some bug testing with it) Sadly a final version got never released :-(




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