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Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

From: Pablo Giménez
Subject: Re: Changes I've been thinking of...
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:39:06 +0100

Thanks for the clarification David.
Now looking at the GNGUstep panorama I must say that probably which needs an improvement to make GNUstep more appeal is the GAP project.
The set of tools there are what could be considered as the core applications (except for GWorspace, SystemPreferences and the dev tools provided by GNUstep otself).

El 8 de octubre de 2009 20:33, David Chisnall <address@hidden> escribió:
On 8 Oct 2009, at 18:22, Pablo Giménez wrote:

Why Etoile and gnustep? I think that know etoile and gnustep should be working together in the same project, so you guys can provide a global computing environment, like Mac basically.

Étoilé and GNUstep have different goals.

The aim of GNUstep is to produce a first-rate set of modern, object-oriented, developer tools and APIs based around the OpenStep specification, tracking changes from Cocoa, and incorporating extensions where required.

The aim of Étoilé is to produce a modern user environment using a service- and document-driven model with ubiquitous persistence, versioning, and collaboration support, with ideas from THE and Smalltalk, as well as from OPENSTEP and various other places.

You can use GNUstep without using any of Étoilé.  You can use some bits of Étoilé without using GNUstep (although we haven't ported some of the best bits to OS X as they mostly rely on things that aren't present there).

Most of the Étoilé core team also have commit access to GNUstep.  When things make more sense in GNUstep, we try to make sure that they go there and when Étoilé code exposes bugs in GNUstep we try to fix them (or, in my case, moan to Fred about them, which generally has the same result).  When things are not part of GNUstep's more focussed goals, we put them in Étoilé.  Sometimes code flows from Étoilé to GNUstep, as GNUstep's goals broaden.

Not everybody who uses or contributes to GNUstep agrees with the directions Étoilé is taking, and there are projects like GAP and Backbone to produce more traditional, application-oriented, desktops.  GNUstep's goals include supporting these developers too.

Choice is good when it doesn't lead to duplication of effort, and because Étoilé builds on top of GNUstep this duplication usually doesn't occur.


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Pablo Giménez

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