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Re: [Duplicity-talk] Backing up desktop virtual machines?


From: edgar . soldin
Subject: Re: [Duplicity-talk] Backing up desktop virtual machines?
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 11:03:24 +0200
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On 22.07.2014 09:18, Rubin Abdi wrote:
> address@hidden wrote on 2014-07-21 01:51:
>> how many GB's are we talking about. what's your OS?
> 
> My generic Windows 7 testing vm is around 25GB, multiply that by a few
> and it adds up.
> 
> The host machine is Debian Sid amd64.
> 
>> incrementals do exactly that. make sure the virtual machine is
>> paused/stopped to prevent file system (fs) corruption.
> 
> My understanding of incremental backups (which is what I believe I'm
> doing) doesn't actually only upload the deltas of what's been updated
> within a file. If a change is detected it'll just upload the whole file.
> So if I boot into a Windows .vdi and immediately shut down the vm,
> Duplicity through an incremental backup will reupload the whole 25GB
> .vdi file, and not just the smaller inner bits of that file that's change.
> 
> Please correct me if my notion on how this works is wrong.

no, duplicity uses librsync to backup only changed parts of a file via rolling 
checksum algo.
check the overview/stats output after an incremental backup. it shows how much 
data it actually backed up.

>> possible, but different backup sets sounds a more natural approach.
>>
>> however, if done via in/exclude duplicity would mask the source fs
>> accordingly and the files would appear as "freshly" created in fulls
>> and deleted in following incrementals (because missing in the source
>> fs).
> 
> Ah, ok, I hadn't thought about that at all. That is annoying.
> 
>> try to find out the bottleneck in your vm backup first. is it the
>> upload or the backup itself (test backup to local file:// target).
>> knowing that you might be able to speed up things or in the worst
>> case split backups.
> 
> I believe the issue simply is virtual machines are large, and I don't
> need to back them up as frequently as everything else on this machine.
> 

there are issues with big backup sets wrt. file size on the remote backend and 
such. so far i've not heard any reproducible performance issues. 

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