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Re: Learning EEV

From: Tomas Hlavaty
Subject: Re: Learning EEV
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 21:25:44 +0200

On Tue 28 Jun 2022 at 10:07, Quiliro Ordóñez <> wrote:
> But, upon several attempts to learn EEV, I have
> given up every time.

For me, the ideas in eev are interesting.

eev changes my emacs settings too much so
I use eev-beginner only (subset of eev).

There are a few things I learned to use quickly:

- duplicate line with M-h M-2

- eepitch for executable notes F8

  I like that Eduardo calls a sexp a button and pressing M-e executes
  that sexp.  Before eev, I used to do something similar, having sexp in
  comments and pressing C-e (go to end of line) and then C-x C-e
  (evaluate last sexp), but Eduardo named it properly, gave it a key
  (M-e) and built whole way of thinking around that.

  eepitch blocks are much more useable than for example org-mode code
  blocks, where it is difficult to figure out, how to specify/configure
  the code block.  With eepitch, it is simply all commands, and if you
  for example tunnel ssh or run stuff in various languages
  non-homogenously, it is just lines of texts run on a key press F8.

  Most of the time I do not use debian and globally installed packages
  so the predefined eepitch commands are not useable for me, but it is
  trivial to redefine them or define my own eepitch commands.

  I also use vertically split emacs window since ages ago so eev has
  been a natural fit for my screen habits.

However, I find that most of the stuff in eev is rather Eduardo-specific
so it is probably better strategy to cherry pick the good, reuseable
parts that fit your way.

For example, a lot of things are redundant:

   (find-man "find")
   (man "find")

or too long and not so readable (many of those find- functions for
example).  It is easier to define my own functions, e.g.  (rg-notes
"foo") which searches foo in my notes, etc.

There are also already existing ways of hyperlinking so for many things
I prefer ffap style M-f jumping or M-. and M-, code jumping on the
actual text rather than eev style button.

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