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Re: guided tour suggestions
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David Kastrup |
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Re: guided tour suggestions |
Date: |
Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:36:58 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.51 (gnu/linux) |
Nick Roberts <address@hidden> writes:
> > > Would it be possible to make the screenshots with emacs -Q so
> > > that people see what they get out of the box ... ?
> >
> > Good idea.
> >
> > > The guided tour ... shows an Emacs a) compiled without a modern
> > > toolkit (Gtk+, Windows or Mac) b) without menus c) without
> > > toolbars d) without scrollbars (for heaven's sake!) e) without
> > > font diversity. The only thing hinting at fonts is a man-page
> > > f) without file dialogs g) without tooltips h) without any
> > > non-ASCII character
> >
> > When I get a chance, I will make some screenshots with the
> > default UI setup, and with more complex formatting/characters.
>
> Remember, however, that GTK is _not_ the default toolkit for Emacs
> 22.1 so that won't be what people see out of the box.
Depends on the box. I should hope that at least GNOME-centric
distributions with X11 would offer the Gtk+ version (Debian offers a
choice IIRC of what to install). Anyway, if we wanted to go for "most
common case", we would need to show a Windows Emacs. That is not
really what we want, either (though a single screenshot for each of
the major platforms for comparison would perhaps be nice: I find that
Emacs' visual integration into various desktops is a selling point
against XEmacs which shows quite the same quaint look everywhere), but
I suppose it pretty much depends on who is going to spend the effort
of creating the screenshots.
> Currently it won't be the default for Emacs 22.2 either.
I think there is still a difference between using configure without
options, and using no run-time options. However, I would also
consider my compilation (using --without-toolkit-scroll-bars since
anything but Athena toolkit semantics is somewhat dysfunctional) unfit
for screen shots since it uses _special_ configure options resulting
in a look that won't likely be available "out of the box" for _any_
distribution. It would be too complicated explaining that my look
does not result from a deficiency of Emacs, but a deficiency of Gtk+
and my way around it (with a little bit of help from Emacs).
--
David Kastrup
- Re: guided tour suggestions, (continued)
- Re: guided tour suggestions, Phil Sung, 2007/06/26
- RE: guided tour suggestions, Drew Adams, 2007/06/27
- Re: guided tour suggestions, David Kastrup, 2007/06/27
- Re: guided tour suggestions, Nick Roberts, 2007/06/27
- Re: guided tour suggestions, David Kastrup, 2007/06/27
- Re: guided tour suggestions, Phil Sung, 2007/06/28
- Re: guided tour suggestions, David Kastrup, 2007/06/28
- Re: guided tour suggestions, David House, 2007/06/28
- Re: guided tour suggestions, David Kastrup, 2007/06/28
- Re: guided tour suggestions, Nick Roberts, 2007/06/28
- Re: guided tour suggestions,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: guided tour suggestions, Juri Linkov, 2007/06/29
- Re: guided tour suggestions, Nick Roberts, 2007/06/29
- Re: guided tour suggestions, David House, 2007/06/30