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Re: Key bindings proposal

From: Juri Linkov
Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:48:03 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)

>> But what are technical difficulties of implementing menu accelerators?
> I have no idea.  But apparently Lennart has more or less succeeded for 
> Windows,
> and Stephen mentioned that XEmacs added accelerators long ago.

Does XEmacs bind a key (or key sequences) to access the top-level menu?
I mean something like <f10> or Alt-F (for File menu)?

>> IIUC, Gtk and Windows already support menu accelerators,
>> and they will also improve navigation in tmm-menubar
>> (that currently assigns quite random accelerators).
> [With La Carte what you type directly reflects the menu names themselves: you
> complete against a menu path (with substring etc. matching, if you use Icicles
> or Ido etc.).  There is nothing arbitrary about what you type.  This helps you
> learn and remember the menu organization.  You can drill down the menu 
> hierarchy
> progressively, as in TMM (but with meaningful input) or you can match your 
> menu
> target directly.]

Tmm is for menu navigation, and La Carte is for menu completion.
I think they both are useful.

>> So for instance, in Gimp you can open a file by typing `<f10> f o'.
>> And in Emacs it will be possible to do exactly the same
>> in Gtk, Windows, xterm and non-toolkit versions (using tmm).
> I have nothing against Emacs supporting menu accelerators. That should be 
> clear
> from previous posts.

Then who is against Emacs supporting menu accelerators? :-)

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