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Re: Repo cpnversion progress report

From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: Repo cpnversion progress report
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 18:15:00 +0200

> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:25:18 -0500
> From: "Eric S. Raymond" <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden
> Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>:
> > I'm sorry, but my motivation to help you at this point is nil, I'm
> > sure you understand why.
> I'm sorry, but if you're not going to be helpful, then expect to be
> ignored.

I'm ignored already.  You never accepted any argument of mine through
that long and tiresome "discussion".  You are always right and all
those who disagree with you are always wrong.

> The cost of withdrawing any cooperation is that you lose influence
> over the result.

I never had any influence over that, because you refuse to listen
to any dissenting arguments, and prefer to stubbornly do what you
decided was right ahead of any discussion.

> You get to take what comes out the other end and like it.

Emacs is not my project, and this conversion is not my funeral.  You
may wish to stop being obsessed by my sorry self, and start seriously
thinking of the greater good -- the good of the project with which you
are messing.  Because it's the project that will "take what comes out
the other end", not me.

> I'm not saying this out of personal rancor. This conversion job is so
> messy and labor-intensive that I simply cannot spare the energy to
> listen to people I think are just going to carp about it.

You didn't listen to begin with.

Look, you asked for comments on your progress report, and I gave them
to you.  It's up to you to act on those comments or ignore them.  The
results will speak for themselves.

> Because I at least like to think I'm a reasonable person, you can
> rescue this situation at any time by displaying behavioral evidence of
> helpfulness.

Thank you for this arrogant lecture, but I won't hold my breath if I
were you, as I don't hold mine regarding a similar change in your

> That means doing something concrete that helps the work along.

I have no intention to help where my help is not welcome.  If you want
my help, you will need to accept and respect my judgments on what and
how should or shouldn't be done, and at least sometimes agree or
compromise.  If instead you want to use me as a workhorse that just
does as he is told and shuts up, you will have to look elsewhere.

And I suggest all the others in this project to seriously consider
whether we want to trust this job (or any job) to a man who thinks,
speaks, and acts like you do.

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