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Re: text-quoting-style

From: Alan Mackenzie
Subject: Re: text-quoting-style
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:16:13 +0000
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12)

Hello again, Stefan.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 09:59:05PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Let me try again: the flag text-quoting-style enables a user to control
> > the handling of the curly quotes in her Emacs.

> That describes what text-quoting-style does.  Not why we need it.

> > I believe such flexibility to be needed.

> Here you just state that we need it with no justification.

OK, let's try a third time.

A user should have control over the handling of curly quotes in her
Emacs.  I take that as a given, scarcely needing justification - Emacs
is, in its very essence, a configurable program, adaptable to user needs
and preferences.  Strong opinions about preferences with regard to curly
quotes have been expressed recently on emacs-devel.  This is an
indication that we need ways of configuring curly quotes.

But if justification is wanted, I think I would not ever again update my
Emacs if that meant being forced to have these curly quotes in my
buffers.  It's quite likely other people feel as strongly about it as I

The current and only mechanism for controlling these curly quotes is
text-quoting-style.  Therefore, either text-quoting-style must stay, or
some other method of implementing curly control must be implemented to
replace it.

Note that the locale is not a suitable tool for controlling curlies -
when one needs a locale with more than ASCII, yet doesn't want curly
quotes, it is likely to be difficult, too difficult, to find a suitable
locale which excludes the curly quotes.

If this answer still isn't adequate, please give me solid pointers as to
what's inadequate about it, and I'll see what I can do.

>         Stefan

Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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