Re: Emacs Lisp's future

[Clément Pit--Claudel]

On 2016-10-11 03:16, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
> On 2016-10-11, at 06:18, Clément Pit--Claudel <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
>> On 2016-10-11 00:06, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
>>> BTW, someone (Raman?) on this thread said that namespaces save typing.
>>> That's not exactly right; that goal is achieved with autocompletion (as
>>> he already noticed).  What namespaces really do is twofold:
>>>
>>> 1. Help avoid collisions, and
>>>
>>> 2. (last but not least!) save on reading.
>>>
>>> Long function names are really bad.
>>
>> I think nameless makes both of these a non-issue.  You get "import x as y" 
>> using custom prefixes (such as fl: for font-lock), and for your own code 
>> there's no typing (C-- inserts the package prefix) and no wasted space.
>>
>> Bottom line: I don't see much use for proper namespaces :)
> 
> That's only true to some extent.  Both names and nameless packages (even
> though I really appreciate them) are really prosthetics; I'd have to
> check it, but how do they behave with tools like xref-find-definitions,
> edebug, lispy and others?  I'm pretty sure that names won't cooperate
> with them nicely (I vaguely remember trying, though I'm not sure), I'd
> have to check nameless.

I never used names.  Nameless works entirely fine with all of the tools you 
mentioned, because it only touches font-locking.

Clément.

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