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Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers (was: "Why is emacs so squar
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Eduardo Ochs |
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Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers (was: "Why is emacs so square?") |
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Sun, 19 Apr 2020 07:54:30 +0100 |
There are several different ways of making Emacs more friendly for
newcomers, and we should take a look at all these different ways and
try to connect them somehow.
I gave a presentation about my way at the last EmacsConf. It's here:
http://angg.twu.net/emacsconf2019.html
and I mentioned briefly in the presentation - in slides 11-13 - how
I've been using it to teach Emacs to lots of beginners. To make a long
story very short:
0) install Emacs and eev in their machines,
1) teach them the basics of Lisp _IN THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES_,
2) show them how to navigate using the keys M-e, M-j, and M-k,
and the menu bar and the tool bar.
>From the docs:
M-e - to follow a hyperlink. Mnemonic: "(e)valuate"/"(e)xecute".
M-j - to jump to certain predefined places. In particular, M-j
without a numeric argument takes you to a buffer with basic
help and a list of jump targets. See:
http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-eev-quick-intro.html#7.2
M-k - to go back. Mnemonic: "(k)ill buffer".
Cheers,
Eduardo Ochs
http://angg.twu.net/#eev
http://angg.twu.net/emacsconf2019.html
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 07:16, Po Lu <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> ndame <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > Looks good. These are the changes Emacs needs, so it has a nicer first
> > impression for users who come from mainstream tools to give it a try.
>
> I don't think the general goal is for Emacs to imitate popular tools, but
> instead to make it a mainstream tool. To achieve this, we do need to
> make Emacs more friendly for newcomers, but we shouldn't erase the
> traits that make Emacs unique (such as extreme extensibility and
> customizability).
>
> IOW, everything added to make Emacs more friendly should be optional
> (but easily discoverable), and should not break backwards-compatiblity with
> existing configurations.
>
> Emacs has endured for 40+ years. I doubt that without the Emacsen I
> remember using with squeals of delight (Epoch, XEmacs, Emacs 19), and
> the various improvements they curtailed that Emacs would still be where
> it is now. Let's help Emacs endure another 40 years.
>
- Re: "Why is emacs so square?", (continued)
- Re: "Why is emacs so square?", Richard Stallman, 2020/04/18
- Re: "Why is emacs so square?", Po Lu, 2020/04/18
- Re: "Why is emacs so square?", Jean-Christophe Helary, 2020/04/18
- Re: "Why is emacs so square?", Po Lu, 2020/04/18
- Re: "Why is emacs so square?", ndame, 2020/04/19
- Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers (was: "Why is emacs so square?"), Po Lu, 2020/04/19
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers (was: "Why is emacs so square?"),
Eduardo Ochs <=
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers, Po Lu, 2020/04/19
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers (was: "Why is emacs so square?"), 조성빈, 2020/04/19
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers (was: "Why is emacs so square?"), ndame, 2020/04/19
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers, Po Lu, 2020/04/19
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers, ndame, 2020/04/19
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers, Po Lu, 2020/04/19
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers, Sébastien Gendre, 2020/04/19
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers, Stefan Kangas, 2020/04/19
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers, Tim Cross, 2020/04/19
- Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers, Po Lu, 2020/04/20