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Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs

From: Richard Stallman
Subject: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs
Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 22:44:44 -0400

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  > Richard, Eli: please decide wether you want s.el into ELPA or not.

In its current form, I think it would be a grave mistake to include
s.el in ELPA.  Its purpose is to make Emacs Lisp mimic object-oriented
languages which are alien to Emacs Lisp.

See my message to Stefan for a change that would make s.sl ok to add.

  > I'm not sure why there's this sudden turnaround on this issue, maybe
  > I'm missing something.

I don't think there was a turnaround.  We never decided to include
s.el in GNU ELPA.

Before yesterday, we were talking about a different question: whether
to adopt the s.el functions and their names in Emacs Lisp.  When I saw
concretely what those actually were, I said no.

Then yesterday I saw a message proposing to include s.el in ELPA, and
_presuming_ that that was ok.  I responded no, saying that it would
send Emacs Lisp down the same wrong path.  We should not have code in
Emacs that uses string-prepend instead of concat.  We should fix that
code to use concat.

  > This is a bit embarassing for me to have done the work of getting
  > magnars to agree to put it there just to be refused at the last
  > minute,

I am sorry for your disappointment, because I feel for your eagerness
to make a change you consider an improvement.  But we have to make the
decision that is right.

There is no need for you to feel embarrassed.  The people you talked
with will understand that there is no reason to blame or criticize you
for this.

Meanwhile, maybe we could include it with some changes, as clostring.el.
Please see my message to Stefan.

Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
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