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RE: Interactive guide for new users
From: |
Ihor Radchenko |
Subject: |
RE: Interactive guide for new users |
Date: |
Sun, 13 Sep 2020 12:34:22 +0800 |
> But again, that's not an opinion that we should
> remove it by default. I'm just questioning the
> declaration that it's already (newly) established
> that it should be shown by default.
For example, toolbar is used to help new users with interactive isearch.
It shows next/previous match buttons to help users, who don't know about
C-s/C-r. Moreover, it also provides buttons to show docstring and
provides tooltips about key bindings in isearch-mode-map.
Best,
Ihor
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>> > 2. disable tool-bar-mode
>>
>> We have just established that [the tool bar]
>> is important for newbies.
>
> Without expressing a preference for the default
> behavior here, let me ask whether it's true that
> we've established that tool-bar on is important
> for newbies.
>
> Menu-bar, yes. Or a hamburger-menu or whatever.
> But tool-bar? Have we really "established" that?
>
> A menu-bar is quite helpful for discovery, which
> is important. We want users to discover features
> and key bindings. A tool-bar isn't so useful for
> discovery, I think.
>
> But again, that's not an opinion that we should
> remove it by default. I'm just questioning the
> declaration that it's already (newly) established
> that it should be shown by default.
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, (continued)
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Eli Zaretskii, 2020/09/15
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Dmitry Gutov, 2020/09/14
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Dmitry Gutov, 2020/09/13
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Gregory Heytings, 2020/09/14
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Göktuğ Kayaalp, 2020/09/12
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Gregory Heytings, 2020/09/12
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Robert Pluim, 2020/09/14
- RE: Interactive guide for new users, Drew Adams, 2020/09/12
- RE: Interactive guide for new users,
Ihor Radchenko <=
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Eduardo Mercovich, 2020/09/19
- RE: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Drew Adams, 2020/09/19
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Eduardo Mercovich, 2020/09/21
- RE: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Drew Adams, 2020/09/21
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Eduardo Mercovich, 2020/09/21
- RE: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Drew Adams, 2020/09/21
- Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have), Richard Stallman, 2020/09/21
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Philip K., 2020/09/22
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Richard Stallman, 2020/09/22
- Re: Interactive guide for new users, Philip K., 2020/09/23