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Re: Gitlab Migration
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Gitlab Migration |
Date: |
Wed, 01 Sep 2021 15:36:13 +0300 |
> From: John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org>
> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:35:10 -0400
> Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
> danflscr@gmail.com,
> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>, Stefan Monnier
> <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
> Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>
> > Emacs is an old and _stable_ package. "Stable" means just that:
> > features burned into users' muscle memory don't just change every
> > weekend.
>
> At 70, I still count myself as an "early adopter". I am unlikely to
> accept having my world and habits disrupted every weekend. But
> with somewhat longer time scales (e.g. Ubuntu's six month and
> Android yearly cadences) I am quite comfortable.
How long is "somewhat longer" is obviously very personal and differs
between people. I've met people for whom 6 months is a blink of an
eye.
> > So we do it slowly, cautiously, and preferably via opt-in
> > features, because we respect our users and their habits.
>
> Ah, but the model is opt-in to change, not opt-out. Thus
> opponents of change start off with an advantage and set
> the terms of debate.
I said "preferably opt-in". We do make opt-out changes as well, just
less so, for the reasons I tried to explain.
> Other models are possible:
> * Long term releases with sunset dates
> * Previews of features that will become defaults with opt-out
> * ?
Someoneā¢ should step forward and volunteer to manage such models. If
and when they do, I don't see why not, at least not in principle.
> Anyway, thank you, Eli, for your long, thoughtful reply and
> for your project leadership.
You are welcome.
- Re: Gitlab Migration, John Yates, 2021/09/01
- Re: Gitlab Migration,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: Gitlab Migration, Richard Stallman, 2021/09/01
- Re: Gitlab Migration, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/09/02
- Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel, Philip Kaludercic, 2021/09/02
- Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/09/02
- Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/09/03
- Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/09/03
- Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/09/03
- Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/09/03
- Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/09/03
- Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/09/03