Re: Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot)

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 19/04/2023 21:07, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> It has similar problems: it will automatically update packages
> mentioned in package--safely-upgradeable-builtins, which might not be
> what users want for built-in packages.

IMO that kind of choice could be deferred to the maintainer of each 
individual package. Or make it a defcustom if you're really worried.

BTW, even choosing that patch where this user option is a defcustom 
defaulting to nil would make more sense to me than the patch we 
currently decided to install.

> You assume that everyone will
> want Eglot and use-package automatically updated, but this assumption
> has no real basis.

People don't call 'M-x package-install' automatically, nor do they put 
those calls in their init files automatically. The only cases where 
Eglot would be automatically updated, even with the proposed patch, is 
when the user previously declared their intention to have Eglot updated 
at least once, in some manual fashion (e.g. using 'package-install' 
interactively).

> I object in general to any feature that
> unexpectedly installs some software without the explicit user's
> say-so.

No disagreement here.