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Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove
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Daniel Colascione |
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Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove |
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Sun, 23 Jun 2024 10:45:53 -0400 |
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On June 23, 2024 10:37:12 AM EDT, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> writes:
>
>> Well, yes? It's of marginal interest because it's not
>> discoverable. It's nevertheless useful. More people would use the
>> package if it were discoverable. I don't think the logic is terribly
>> complicated here.
>
>C-x 4 <up> is more discoverable than is (emacs)Window Convenience? That
>is an exceptional statement that calls for exceptional evidence.
>
>> It continues to astound me that people want to put many hours into a
>> project yet insist they're indifferent between its success and
>> failure.
>
>How does the success or failure of an _Emacs_ package (Doom Emacs)
>produce the opposite outcome for Emacs? If anything I would expect it
>to be our duty to wish and help them achieve success, and never to treat
>them as adversaries.
>
>> I'm waiting for such an example. You've bound C-x 4 down to
>> something. Fine. That binding would continue to work if Emacs came
>> with C-x 4 already bound to something else. That's how defaults
>> work. Can you please explain the actual problem that providing these
>> new default bindings would cause for your workflow?
>
>The next user who drops by my computer types C-x 4 down and finds
>himself staring at an open web browser, Emacs nowhere in sight.
So you think users should be prevented from changing default keybindings?
That's what the logic of your argument suggests.
In practice, nobody but me is realistically going to be using my Emacs
configuration. Personal specificity is the essence of personalization. Most
random people sitting down to an Emacs session anyway are going to try things
like C-c to copy and C-v to paste, and these don't work anyway.
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, (continued)
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Gregor Zattler, 2024/06/24
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Daniel Colascione, 2024/06/24
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/06/24
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Gregor Zattler, 2024/06/24
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/06/24
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Joel Reicher, 2024/06/24
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Petteri Hintsanen, 2024/06/24
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Daniel Colascione, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Po Lu, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove,
Daniel Colascione <=
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Joel Reicher, 2024/06/24
- RE: [External] : Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Drew Adams, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Daniel Colascione, 2024/06/23
- Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], tomas, 2024/06/23
- Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Daniel Colascione, 2024/06/23
- Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Stefan Kangas, 2024/06/23
- Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], tomas, 2024/06/23
- Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Stefan Monnier, 2024/06/23
- RE: [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Drew Adams, 2024/06/23
- Re: [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in, opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Madhu, 2024/06/25