Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove

[Joel Reicher]

Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> writes:

> On June 23, 2024 10:15:59 AM EDT, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
> > Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> writes:
> >
> > > I don't trust that many such users exist, and even if they 
> > > did, providing default keybindings for these keys will not 
> > > somehow override the keybindings you install yourself.
> >
> > Sure.  And more users stand to benefit from Windmove commands if 
> > they are bound to C-x 4, than if they were required to bind such 
> > commands themselves, commands defined by a package that is 
> > already of marginal interest?  What extraordinary logic!
>
> Well, yes? It's of marginal interest because it's not 
> discoverable. It's nevertheless useful. More people would use 
> the package if it were discoverable. I don't think the logic is 
> terribly complicated here.

What I have found as I've learned Emacs is that while 
discoverability is important, what I've really needed is 
"try-ability", as it's often been difficult for me to imagine how 
a particular function might feel to use, might serve me (or not), 
and sometimes what it even does until I see it (especially if it 
involves new concepts).

A few times early on I would have liked default keybindings 
automatically added /after/ electing to try a package and /only 
if/ those keys weren't already bound to something else. Every now 
and again I think Emacs would be improved by having this-or-that 
feature with a lower "barrier to trying", even if I had elected 
not to stick with it.

These days I'm confident in my ability to add my own keybindings 
in order to try a package, but at the start I wasn't.

Thanks and regards,

      - Joel