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Re: [emacs-humanities] Paper Zettelkasten safety [was: Why Emacs-humanit

From: Jean Louis
Subject: Re: [emacs-humanities] Paper Zettelkasten safety [was: Why Emacs-humanities?]
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 16:40:21 +0300
User-agent: Mutt/2.0.7+183 (3d24855) (2021-05-28)

* Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> [2021-07-11 14:37]:
> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> > For me the formatting is what bothers me here. It is not any more
> > plain text, that is the clear disadvantage of Org mode, the reason I
> > have switched away.
> Well. I do not see much problem with formatting. Emacs has font-lock
> giving me power to change the displayed representation as I wish,
> regardless of the details of the plain text formatting.

I meant format of Org mode with all various properties is mixing those
propeties, attributes with the meaning, it makes it not readable any
more. I have separated it long time ago. I wonder what you mean with
font lock, as if font lock will not make it disappear, maybe it could,
but there is no such integration as of now.

> >> * DONE [#A] [book note] Ahrens [Sonke Ahrens] (2017) How to Take Smart 
> >> Notes: One Simple Technique to Boost Writing, Learning and Thinking – for 
> >> Students, Academics and Nonfiction Book Writers 
> >
> > For the above I can see you need tags, and priorities, types. Like
> > [book note]. There is double entry for author in the title and in
> > bibtex entry as well. 
> "[book note]" was added just for you to clarify. The
> author/published/year/title fields were automatically generated during
> capture and can be updated as I change the actual object properties.
> Actually, I do not see how my headline text is different from what you use
> in Hyperscope:

You are right, it is about same, just headline is in this example
longer. I sometimes keep author's name in the headline as that is how
some files arrive over here, sometimes not, though I keep things
separate. I can fully erase the text without erasing attributes, tags,
properties. Need scheduled times? Press key. Need to see attributes
and relations? Press key. See related people? Press key. Otherwise
focus on text. As a side note, if any editing is lost I can revert
back to it from the database revision system.

> For me, the headline is merely a way to summarise important information
> about the object. I just prefer to not see the ID and prefer to see the
> year, publisher, and author. And I can add something else if I wish and
> I think it is important enough to see in summary of the object.

For me it is name of the object, title. If I wish to see author, press
key. Any attributes, must press key. 

> Sure. And it is how I see it in my Emacs. Because there is
> adaptive-wrap-prefix-mode 

I cannot find that function.

> > - yes, you better have a database backed system;
> Maybe. It does not really matter for me if I use text-based or
> database-based system. I can use any system if it is fast, does not
> demand me storing data on servers I do not control, I can extend it, and
> have enough features I care about. 8 years ago I was planning to
> implement such system from scratch. Then I found Org mode, which
> satisfied my requirements. If I find Hyperscope more suitable, I will
> happily switch.

We have to come to point of installing it all together and easily. If
you wish to try I can help, it requires chat I guess to help you.


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