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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Trademark licenses, example in Firefox

From: Diego Saravia
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Trademark licenses, example in Firefox
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:34:33 -0300

If you're taking full advantage of the open-source nature of Mozilla's
products and making significant functional changes, you may not
redistribute the fruits of your labor under any Mozilla trademark,
without Mozilla's prior written consent. For example, if the product
you've modified is Firefox, you may not use Mozilla or Firefox, in
whole or in part, in its name. Also, it would be inappropriate for you
to say "based on Mozilla Firefox". Instead, in the interest of
complete accuracy, you could describe your executables as "based on
Mozilla technology", or "incorporating Mozilla source code." In
addition, you may want to read the discussion on the "Powered by
Mozilla" logo.

In addition, if you compile a modified version, as discussed above,
with branding enabled (the default in our source code is branding
disabled), you will require Mozilla's prior written permission. If
it's not the unmodified installer package from, and
you want to use our trademark(s), our review and approval of your
modifications is required. You also must change the name of the
executable so as to reduce the chance that a user of the modified
software will be misled into believing it to be a native Mozilla

Again, any modification to the Mozilla product, including adding to,
modifying in any way, or deleting content from the files included with
an installer, file location changes, added code, modification of any
source files including additions and deletions, etc., will require our
permission if you want to use the Mozilla Marks. If you have any
doubt, just ask us at address@hidden

so mozilla is not free software

you can modify mozilla to get a "free software"

but in that case the source is not free, becouse you will have a "non
source", source

as in linux, the very source is not free, so what is free is not the
source, but a modified software that you cannot call source, if you
speak by the truth.

as in linux, as in debian, or in other mix software, or derivatives,
we do not really have free source

we need new, independient projects, a new free kernel, a new free
browser, with free true sources, and a comunity involved in free
software principles.

2011/7/21 Jason Self <address@hidden>:
> Rubén Rodríguez wrote:
>> * Does it render the program non-free?
> Sam Geeraerts <address@hidden> wrote ..
>> I think so. If you put Firefox with branding on a Trisquel CD then you
>> (or anyone else) can't sell that CD, as I understand it.
> That seems to be exactly what it's saying:
> "If you want to distribute the unchanged official binaries using the Mozilla
> Marks, you may do so, without receiving any further permission from Mozilla, 
> as
> long as you comply with this Trademark Policy and you distribute them without
> charge."
> Not being able to charge money for unmodified binaries does seem to conflict
> with that with what the FSF has in their Free Software Definition.

Diego Saravia
NO FUNCIONA->address@hidden

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