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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Trademark licenses, example in Firefox

From: Nicolás Reynolds
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Trademark licenses, example in Firefox
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:32:15 -0300
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El 22/07/11 01:07, Quiliro Ordóñez dijo:
> El 22/07/11 12:37, Diego Saravia escribió:
> >
> >    > source of linux libre is linux, and is not free
> >    > source of icecat is firefox and we are seeing that is not free
> >
> >    Source of Linux-libre is Linux-libre, completely free:
> >
> >    libre/download/releases/LATEST-
> >
> >    Source of GNU IceCat, again completely free:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >that files are not sources, sources are in linux project and
> >mozilla proyects. Linuxlibre and ice-cat  are usefull, to aloud
> >people to use only free software without  restrictions, to know
> >what happens in each machine (blobs) (if they have the hardware) or
> >to aloud to sell software, but they don' t provide sources. They
> >provide a sub product of the real sources, that are not free. A
> >restricted set of software that is free.
> >
> >these files are modified by hand or in automatic way (like kernel
> >in ututo), bur are not sources
> >
> >call them sources is like call sources a grammar in c produced by
> >yacc/bisson
> >
> >there are not legaly sources, and is not a good idea to think of
> >them as a new project, becouse the people that really do the code
> >are not in linux-libre nor in ice cat project.  They are not new
> >projects, nor forks, and continue to be that way, each new version
> >is constructed from a new version of the very sources. Only one
> >criterion: remove non free, restrict the universo of machines to
> >the one in wich only free soft. could be run.
> Could you write this in Spanish? The text is not clear.

I think Diego means there's no source history nor hacker community but a subset
of it's product; the same critique that was done when the directory of free OOo
extensions was made, or the end impression people has when we do this. Doesn't
freedom count as added value?

Either way, lxoliva was working on importing development history of linux-libre
from linux's git tree, and there was a discussion here on how to implement it.

Nicolás Reynolds,

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