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Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software


From: Aaron Kulkis
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 06:57:20 -0500

Les Mikesell wrote:
> 
> "Edward Rosten" <address@hidden> wrote in message
> news:address@hidden
> > > The GPL creates restrictions for redistribution.  The BSDL has no such
> > > restrictions, other than giving credit.  The restrictions for GPL
> >
> > BUT it allows for further restrictions ot be introduced.
> 
> Only on additional work by other people.   The original code remains
> as available as ever from the original author without any further
> restrictions.
> 
> > > redistribution can be having to give your work away, in the same way
> > > that restrictions for commecial redistribution can be to give money
> > > away.  For commecial purposes, money is equivalent in many ways to
> > > work-time or work-product.
> >
> > > Free software doesn't constrain the freedom of those who redistribute
> > > code.  It doesnt add conditions or create additional requirements
> > > (including payment of money or code.)
> >
> > Neither does it constrain the freedom of the recipients, but if someone
> > gets something under the BSDL and distributes it under the EPL, the
> > recipient has restrictions, not freedom.
> 
> The recipient has the freedom to make his own choice about using this
> work which can't even exist with any restrictive GPL components.
> 
> > > For example, for fun, link a GPLed library with your own code.  The
> > > entire work becomes redistribution encumbered (you must be able to
> > > provide source code), especially if there is no other GPLed library with
> > > the same interface.  Not only is the GPL a restrictive license, but it
> > > invokes the much hated interface copyright concept (per RMS.)
> >
> > Most libraries are under the LGPL, which was invented to prevent EPL's
> > apps having to give away the source.
> 
> Why aren't they all - and code in general?  The LGPL is fairly reasonable,
> unlike the GPL which removes the rights of the authors of any other
> components of derived works.

Your right to live in any neighborhood you choose does NOT obligate me to
provide you with the money to do so.


> 
>          Les Mikesell
>              address@hidden

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.



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