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Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software


From: Aaron R. Kulkis
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:01:59 -0500

Les Mikesell wrote:
> 
> "Jeffrey Siegal" <address@hidden> wrote in message
> news:address@hidden
> > Les Mikesell wrote:
> > > "Jeffrey Siegal" <address@hidden> wrote in message
> > > news:address@hidden
> > > > Les Mikesell wrote:
> > > > > I don't see the need to mention the GPL in that paragraph.  What
> part
> > > > > of the Artistic license would prevent you from forking your own
> > > > > copy and keeping it freely available?
> > > >
> > > > Nothing, but that's not what I said.
> > >
> > > I thought I quoted your whole paragraph with your explanation
> > > for what the GPL adds to a dual-licensed work.   What did
> > > I miss?
> >
> > I have no idea what you missed, but your comment was nonresponsive.  I
> > talked about forking *a GPL-only version*, which involves assurances of
> > continued derivative source access, modifyability, and
> > redistributability, and you talked about forking "your own copy and
> > keeping it freely available" which does not involve these assurances.
> > The two are really separate issues.
> 
> I talked about keeping a copy freely available because I don't understand
> why anyone who wants to give something away would also want
> to restrict the way it can be shared.  For the GPL to make a difference
> it must either involve preventing distribution and use, or forcing the
> distributor to do something other than his own choice, neither of
> which seem reasonable to me.

Open Software is nothing more than a return to the notion that software
purchasers should have access to the source code so that they can
modify it as needed, in the same way that the purchaser of an
automobile is free to replace and/or modify the factory heads, pistons,
crankshaft, cam chaft, ignition system, transmission, hub caps, body
panels, or any other part as he sees fit....and the GPL is the legal
document which enforces it.


> 
>         Les Mikesell
>            address@hidden


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.



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